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Who are my Brethren/Sistren?

Started this discussion. Last reply by The Nerd Jul 15, 2009. 6 Replies

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Franklin Bacon replied to Mark Tulloss's discussion Alone and Adrift in a Hostile Universe in the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
"I have tossed around such thoughts without much support for 27 years and until recently had few resources to rely upon. Suddenly, there is a multitude of resources that have become available on the Internet, but they still feel rather impersonal. It…"
Dec 16, 2012
Franklin Bacon commented on Richard Haynes's group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
"It is most odd that religions attempt to practice psychology without having pertinent studies at hand.  We are brought up from very early in formative years, or when in a life crisis, given "answers" based on the desires of primitive…"
Jul 4, 2012
Ken Bailey left a comment for Franklin Bacon
"I've been to a few events. The debate between Desouza and Jacoby was well done."
May 30, 2012
Franklin Bacon replied to Jen E.'s discussion New Year's resolution? finding a rational healthy support/community in the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
"I sense that the group members collectively ARE a stronger power than an individual separate.  Two heads are better than one, as the saying goes.    The only trouble with relying exclusively on a supernatural "higher power"…"
Dec 30, 2010
Franklin Bacon replied to Jen E.'s discussion I refuse to believe in a God who tortures, punishes, and creates bad situations in the name of His love! in the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
""God" concepts include so many "what ifs" that I would be confused if I ever tried. Which god concept did you choose, or did you pick a pretty ecumenical one? My family didn't have any traditional belief that I know of, so…"
Sep 7, 2010
Franklin Bacon replied to Nepul Hope Whipp's discussion Feeling alone! in the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
"Never met anyone before who had been Holiness and left it. I just started in that faith around the time I was 9, so I suspect we two had different experiences in how we dealt with the group. Worst thing is, being in it throughout my teen years, it…"
May 20, 2010
Franklin Bacon replied to Jo's discussion Catholic excommunication in the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
"I verbally attempted to withdraw from membership in my former church group, but the minister didn't carry through with the request with the board of directors. It only mattered to apprise them of my decision, but would have made no difference…"
Jan 23, 2010
Jo replied to Franklin Bacon's discussion Automatic response with Fundy undertones in the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
"I believe the only way to change one's own behaviour and thoughts is through HABIT. And gentle and constant reminders that you are human, coming out of a cult, and overcoming a lifetime of brainwashing and bad habits. I ascribe to the…"
Jan 21, 2010
Franklin Bacon replied to Franklin Bacon's discussion Automatic response with Fundy undertones in the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
"Though I would dislike accepting myself being this way, it's not something I can foresee each time it pops up...it's not something I consciously do, but 20/20 hindsight tells me it happens over and over again, so the question is how to…"
Jan 21, 2010
Jo replied to Franklin Bacon's discussion Automatic response with Fundy undertones in the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
"Yes, BIG TIME. I'm very very very stubborn and it's a character flaw as far as I'm concerned but it was celebrated as solid faith when I was in the Truman Show. I also have low tolerance for irrationality or what I'd call…"
Jan 21, 2010
Franklin Bacon added a discussion to the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
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Automatic response with Fundy undertones

I find myself expecting certain things from society. It seems I just don't fit into it. Even though my expectations are entirely rational, they are unable to discern how others relate to the game of life within the bounds of their societ(ies). I state how I expect to be treated, yet others are unwilling to offer much help by treating me kindly or accepting the differences of my upbringing, while at the same time insisting I accept theirs.I have a punishing attitude toward their irrationality,…See More
Nov 15, 2009
Franklin Bacon replied to Nathan Phelps's discussion With Rights Come Responsibilities in the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
"Seems that free speech was easily forgotten when people tried voicing opinions contrary to the Bush administration. I was in such a protest group, and saw how dissenters were kept 500 feet away from every function Bush conducted, but those who…"
Oct 30, 2009
Franklin Bacon replied to A Former Member's discussion Has homophobia ruined straight male/male bonding?
"So many theories, so few facts. Our culture can't handle the truth...I think they avoid asking the questions so that they will never have to face the answers. I think the premise of this thread is one of those questions, posed as a statement.…"
Aug 25, 2009
Franklin Bacon replied to Byron's discussion Madalyn Murray O'hair
"By outward appearances she was a tough old goat, but she had a heart of gold. I never met anyone as honest before. She was one who tossed around ideas constantly. Constantly involved and curious about anything and everything. She wasn't…"
Aug 25, 2009
Franklin Bacon replied to Brad Feaker's discussion The curse of Facebook in the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
"I would give them three chances...first is fair warning, second is if they make an error. Third is the sign they have no respect for your wishes and so fair is fair, right? No need to ask Dear Abby..."
Aug 25, 2009
Franklin Bacon replied to Nathan Phelps's discussion Ghost in the Machine? in the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
"And it all happened within 6000 years, because that's as old as the earth is? Yah... but when you consider the possibility that the earth is actually billions of years old, several millions of years seem rather easy to have achieved what has…"
Aug 12, 2009

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At 7:18am on May 30, 2012, Ken Bailey said…

I've been to a few events. The debate between Desouza and Jacoby was well done.

At 11:41pm on September 11, 2010, Darrel Ray said…
Good question and one that most of us face on leaving religion. I don't pretend to have "the" answer, but here is an answer. If you were born to parents who raised you totally secular, taught you the wonders of science, read great literature, learned basic philosophical principles, learned music, etc. Would you experience a "void"? Most people I know who were raised by loving secular parents, don't seem to feel any need to fill a "void". So my conclusion is, religion creates a dependency, an addiction within us - in our brains not unlike other kinds of addictions. When the addictive agent is withdrawn we feel a loss or "void." We experience similar senses of a void when a loved one dies or we get divorced. So, in my opinion, it is important to ask, Was there a "void" or was it an addiction, a security blanket, a delusion that gave a false sense of security or well being? We are highly social creatures. When we leave an important social group - like our life long religion - it leaves a social void that is real, but is replaceable with other social groups. The delusional aspect of religion, should not be replaced, instead, we "grow up in the universe." We no longer have any pretend friends. We become adults as opposed to "the children of god." It can be difficult growing out, but the rewards are far greater than the salvation of any imaginary friend.

Just some of my thoughts. I hope this adds to the discussion. I would be glad to hear others ideas.
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