"If you take turtles for example, who are some of the longer living creatures we know, and ever so slow, then maybe S/He was a little 'slow' at coming up with the idea, LOL!
What we know so far is that time and space are both infinite and…"
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Jared Lardo replied to Edward Ryan's discussion A logical argument I've never heard argued in the group Richard Dawkins
"Some christian dude, though I have no idea who, when, or where, basically responded to this a long time ago, but nobody much cares. He said something like "When god made the universe, he also made time." considering this possible…"
Jared Lardo replied to Edward Ryan's discussion A logical argument I've never heard argued in the group Richard Dawkins
"According to some propaganda I recently read--and that's a lot more likely to be representative of modern Christian thought, it being what they themselves use to try to rope more people in and all--the sin isn't the same "original…"
mistercliff replied to Edward Ryan's discussion A logical argument I've never heard argued in the group Richard Dawkins
"I hate to be cynical, but in any argument where you would have to use a logical argument such as this you are talking with someone who could never accept it. You can't have a debate with people like this, only arguments since you are coming…"
Daniel Williams replied to Edward Ryan's discussion A logical argument I've never heard argued in the group Richard Dawkins
"The whole concept of infinite time before the start of the universe is flawed as proved by Einstein. He discovered that time is connected to space as a single concept which he called Space Time. So before the start of the universe, there was…"
Rodney Williams replied to Edward Ryan's discussion A logical argument I've never heard argued in the group Richard Dawkins
"I always try to dumb it down to the simplest terms when I have a Christian bring up creationism. If God can be infinite, why can't the universe be infinite? If you can simply and easily accept God doesn't need a creator, why do you? Him…"
Ashleigh Carter replied to Edward Ryan's discussion A logical argument I've never heard argued in the group Richard Dawkins
"That's what I said! And they were like, "Of course he could get to this point in time! He's god!" Of COURSE he could. Because he's GOD. THANKS for clearing that up. Must be nice being able to just wisk by paradoxes like that."
David Layton replied to Edward Ryan's discussion A logical argument I've never heard argued in the group Richard Dawkins
"There may be a category confusion here. Christians are conflating two concepts of time, one being time as a total unit, the other being time as a set of infinite discreet units. Thus, "always was" becomes the god who "sees" all…"
Vulpes replied to Edward Ryan's discussion A logical argument I've never heard argued in the group Richard Dawkins
"I've thought of this except I was thinking more along the lines of perfection instead of infinity. If god is perfect than any flaw would make him lose his perfection. The only way for a god to be perfect is for him to know everything. Except…"
Tonya Wynn replied to Edward Ryan's discussion A logical argument I've never heard argued in the group Richard Dawkins
"And we are unable to know all that is in the Universe(s) or even in our own world or in science. There is no GOD, as written about or currently believed in, but 'infinity' exists."
Tonya Wynn replied to Edward Ryan's discussion A logical argument I've never heard argued in the group Richard Dawkins
"But, I think infinity of time and space are logical, and coulda sworn Albert Einstein did, too. I think there will always be something smaller than a string or quark and always more universes out there to be discovered."
skepticmom replied to Edward Ryan's discussion A logical argument I've never heard argued in the group Richard Dawkins
"That is a good one."
Objection replied to Edward Ryan's discussion A logical argument I've never heard argued in the group Richard Dawkins
"I read a 'Kalam Cosmological Argument for Atheism', written by Quentin Smith (you can read it online).
In one section, he argues that at the point t=0, every law would break down (ex. 5 divided by 0 is impossible). Therefore, the entirety…"
Doug Bates replied to Edward Ryan's discussion A logical argument I've never heard argued in the group Richard Dawkins
"Nice, I like that one."
DocMike replied to Edward Ryan's discussion A logical argument I've never heard argued in the group Richard Dawkins
"If religionists can wrap their minds around a creator that 'always was', why not a universe that 'always was'? Or a particle that always was? Or energy that always was?"
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John Jubinsky said… - Hi Edward! Have a very happy birthday.
- At 2:54am on June 23, 2009,
Dr. Terence Meaden said… - Hi
Welcome to Atheist Nexus with its 8800 good friends and discussion groups.
Among the groups, try visiting perhaps the busy group “ORIGINS: Universe, Life, Humans, Evolution, Religion.....” with its commonsense discussions. You will be welcome.
One is "Proud to be Atheist" (74 posts) seeing that atheists and humanists hold the intellectual strong ground compared with the pathetic superstitions of the god followers.
Topographic map maker! Did you help invent the excellent MapInfo? Terry Meaden (physicist; archaeologist; 60+; founder of “Origins”)
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