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God, Darwin, and My Biology Class

Started this discussion. Last reply by Michael Penn Sep 29. 14 Replies

David Barash has an opinion piece in today's NYTimes about the incompatibility of science and religion. It's good to see a scientist being honest with his students.…Continue

New Pew Survey on Politics and Religion

Started this discussion. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Sep 26. 26 Replies

The Pew Research Center has published a new report on religion and politics in the United States based on recent surveys.…Continue

An old Onion that still brings tears to my eyes—Tenth Circle for Hell

Started this discussion. Last reply by Luara Aug 27. 3 Replies

This was one of The Onion's best articles:…Continue

Faith and Reason article in NYTimes

Started this discussion. Last reply by Craigart14 Jul 28. 12 Replies

This morning's NYTimes carries an article by anthropologist T. M. Luhrman on the line between faith and reason—and figuring out just where you draw it individually. Luhrman has been in the news in…Continue

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Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion Bestseller Lists Not What They Used To Be
"The book claims that God gives certain people at certain times the power to "discern" demons. The author claims he has had this power at times and using four criteria from Saint Ignatius, he shows how President Obama is following demons.…"
Nov 13
Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Mequa's discussion Neo-Epicurean Life Hacks
"I didn't think you were disingenuous."
Nov 11
Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Mequa's discussion Neo-Epicurean Life Hacks
""No pain, no gain " can be a dangerous motto: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/with-exercise-the-limits-of-no-pain-no-gain/?_r=0 Overtraining is a frequent cause of injury and burnout in young athletes—tennis elbow is a good…"
Nov 11
Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Mequa's discussion Neo-Epicurean Life Hacks
"There is a tradition within Christianity of urging believers to endure suffering (the result of original sin) as a means of imitating the life of Christ. It helps the church and its ministers explain the presence of evil in a world created by a…"
Nov 11
Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Mequa's discussion Neo-Epicurean Life Hacks
"If you read what the martyrs and saints have written, you will see how much they value suffering and desire to suffer: http://whitelilyoftrinity.com/saints_quotes_suffering.html In all of nature except man the sentient animals seek pleasure and…"
Nov 11
Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Mequa's discussion Neo-Epicurean Life Hacks
"Well, no. Your statement was: This strikes me as a rather extravagant claim, for which you provide no examples and I wanted to prod you to defend it with specific instances. I don't think you have made the case for evolutionary suffering…"
Nov 11
Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Mequa's discussion Neo-Epicurean Life Hacks
"But why should we want to alleviate suffering if it always has benefits? Life is often hard for people and many believe, or want to believe, that their suffering makes them better or serves some noble purpose. We are suckers for stories about people…"
Nov 11
Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Mequa's discussion Neo-Epicurean Life Hacks
"Okay, let's look at it a different way. It will help to remember that populations evolve, individuals suffer. Are the two directly and causaly connected? Consider two populations of different species, same genus occupying the same biological…"
Nov 10
Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Mequa's discussion Neo-Epicurean Life Hacks
"Nothing at all, but it is not necessary to repeat their agonies yourself in order to have compassion for them. Buddhism tries to develop a sensibility for the suffering of all living creatures."
Nov 10
Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Mequa's discussion Neo-Epicurean Life Hacks
"The idea that suffering brings wisdom is an ancient one. In the Oresteia, the Greek dramatist Aeschylus wrote: I myself do not see pain as ennobling in any way. To me it looks as though there is an extravagant amount of suffering in the world and…"
Nov 10
Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Mequa's discussion Neo-Epicurean Life Hacks
"Indeed, but one that is permitted by your statement."
Nov 10
Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Mequa's discussion Neo-Epicurean Life Hacks
"Sounds like post hoc ergo propter hoc. The process of natural selection in and of itself does not cause suffering, it's simply that individuals less fit do not reproduce as successfully or survive as long. As Ernst Mayr always insisted,…"
Nov 10
Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Mequa's discussion Neo-Epicurean Life Hacks
"Therefore suffering is a very good thing and the greater the pain, the greater the benefit? Torture itself is a blessing because it makes heretics repent and thereby saves them from eternal damnation? Sounds like standard medieval thinking to…"
Nov 10
Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Mequa's discussion Neo-Epicurean Life Hacks
"It may be the case that more people agree with your view than with mine, but  while suffering may have contingent benefits in particular instances, in general it is destructive and to be avoided. I agree hard work and overcoming obstacles is…"
Nov 10
Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion Bestseller Lists Not What They Used To Be
"Of course, and we all understood it that way, but the fact is that to some wingnuts it's not a joke at all, it's what they actually believe. I keep repeating this line of Lily Tomlin: "No matter how cynical you get, you just…"
Nov 9
Dr. Allan H. Clark replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion Bestseller Lists Not What They Used To Be
"Agreed. There is so much wrong with the book's premises that you wouldn't know where to start in criticizing it. That people can actually think this way is frightening."
Nov 9

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At 11:41am on June 11, 2013, Luara said…

According to something I found online, the conversation between the robot and its creator is actually in Penrose's Shadows of the Mind, pgs 179-190.  The creator is "Albert Imperator". 

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