"When an ideology is deeply ingrained in a society it's not going to be an overnight enlightenment, there will always be pockets of zealots who will never relinquish their belief, but if the nones gather in numbers it should be just a…"
"Re Bonaparte's words: leave it to a military man to say a spade is a spade.
In the 1970s I heard it from a sociologist who was not a Bonaparte: the middle class protects the rich from the poor.
The rich appear to have forgotten.
"Well said loren. I've just read an article by Daniel Dennett on the malaise of Christian faith in the USA, he considers the only way Christianity, or religious faith in general, can stop the rot is a world- shattering catastrophe. It's…"
"And in so doing create a plutocratic oligarchy in the United States, a situation which already obtains too well in the court system and government. With the Citizens United decision in their favor, the brothers Koch have flooded the electoral…"
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.-- Napoleon BonaparteIndeed, this is a message which the captains of industry of the early 20th century either knew well or intuited, and they used it in an effort to co-opt the rights of the…"
"In proportion to what, Gerald?
They make noise way out of proportion to their numbers.
America's millionaires are tiring of them and in some states are starting to support the election efforts of real Republicans -- those who work for wealthy…"
"Thanks Dr. Clark.
The American Liberty League, which figures prominently in this narrative, was part of a conspiracy of would-be oligarchs to assemble an army half a million strong of veterans to convince FDR to accept their "help"…"
"President Eisenhower added enough religion to turn free thinkers' stomachs.
He then all but dumped the corporate titans and other millionaires who wanted him to return working people and their families to the near-slavery they'd lived in…"
"Too many people let life just happen to them instead of choosing how they live. When you raise the question of purpose, everyone begins to think of big overarching questions, but often the mistakes we make are on a much more mundane level of not…"
"I think you've hit on something here, Loren. Their pulling out all the stops on SCOTUS's marriage equality decision reeks of desperation. Maybe they instinctively realize that once public perception judges their position on this to be dead…"
"Huckabee wouldn't have any politics at all if he kept religion out of it. Huckabee and others hope that if they come down on the side of the Bible that suddenly people will rise up and vote them into office. In the past no one has dared to…"
"All the yap about "criminalization of christianity" is a direct result of the decline in christian privilege, owing at least in part to the rise in secularism and the coincident increase in scrutiny on religion in general. …"
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