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Arguments From Basic Principles For Limitations On God*

Started this discussion. Last reply by Write4U Jun 10, 2012. 13 Replies

Argument 1.I would argue that mathematics and logic are independent of issues of the existence or non-existence of God. Consider the following question. Can God create a universe/reality where 2 + 2…Continue

Arguments From Basic Principles For Limitations On God*

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Argument 1. I would argue that mathematics and logic are independent of issues of the existence or non-existence of God/god/gods. Consider the following question. Can God/god/gods create a…Continue

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Dean Loring replied to Sassan K.'s discussion How does one go from atheism to religion?
"According to her, Catholicism provides a moral compass that atheism cannot. A very weak reason. Makes no sense to me other than accepting that it makes sense to her."
Jun 25, 2012
Dean Loring replied to Dean Loring's discussion Arguments From Basic Principles For Limitations On God*
"Because science is about finding mathematical models that have predictive power. Perhaps the closest anyone has come to a predictive TOE is Stephen Hawking and associates in discovering a string theory model using negative space-time curvature, very…"
Jun 10, 2012
Jim DePaulo replied to Dean Loring's discussion Arguments From Basic Principles For Limitations On God*
"I also like the concept of potential as an inherent state in the universe. To me it's obvious – were there no conditions of potentiality from which extant reality emerged, there would be no current reality. The potential(s) must conform…"
Jun 3, 2012
Dean Loring replied to James M. Martin's discussion Moses High on Psychedelics When Decalogue Received from "God" (His Brain)
"Is there any historical/archeological evidence of such usage among Israelites?"
Jun 2, 2012
Dean Loring replied to Dean Loring's discussion Arguments From Basic Principles For Limitations On God*
"Aside from technical meanings of 'potential', the term connotes 'possibility'. Perhaps the closest thing to that idea that we can name is quantum randomness. Now, exactly how that would work I cannot say for certain (a Nobel if I…"
Jun 2, 2012
Dean Loring replied to Dean Loring's discussion Arguments From Basic Principles For Limitations On God*
"And, if God is part of the universe, creation of the universe becomes quite a conundrum."
Jun 1, 2012
Dean Loring replied to Dean Loring's discussion Arguments From Basic Principles For Limitations On God*
"I grok your point (a).  As for (b), at least per the cataclysmic consequences, certainly science fiction writers through and beyond Star Trek to scientists such as Brian Greene have imagined phenomena such as universe/hyperspace/subspace…"
Jun 1, 2012
Dean Loring posted a discussion

Arguments From Basic Principles For Limitations On God*

Argument 1.I would argue that mathematics and logic are independent of issues of the existence or non-existence of God. Consider the following question. Can God create a universe/reality where 2 + 2 = 3 or 5. I maintain that the answer is a resounding no! The axioms of arithmetic (which are restated as the foundation of all mathematics - check the first chapter of any advanced textbook or treatise from algebra on) are abstractions (not in the 'abstract art' sense) of the rules by which physical…See More
Jun 1, 2012
Dean Loring replied to Carrot Hare's discussion Atheists around the world! ASSEMBLE!
"Never been, but I know of Watertown."
May 26, 2012
Dean Loring replied to Ron Laran's discussion Atheist Census
"That's what it sounds like, utter nonsense or not."
May 26, 2012
Dean Loring replied to Ron Laran's discussion Atheist Census
"Count me in.  And in the subgroup who has proven, at least to themselves, that God/god/gods do not exist."
May 26, 2012
Dean Loring posted a discussion

Arguments From Basic Principles For Limitations On God*

Argument 1. I would argue that mathematics and logic are independent of issues of the existence or non-existence of God/god/gods. Consider the following question. Can God/god/gods create a universe/reality where 2 + 2 = 3 or 5. I maintain that the answer is a resounding no! The axioms of arithmetic (which are restated as the foundation of all mathematics - check the first chapter of any advanced textbook or treatise from algebra on) are abstractions (not in the 'abstract art' sense) of the…See More
May 16, 2012
Dean Loring commented on KenLoukinen's group FLorida Atheists and Secular Humanists (FLASH!)
"Hi all. I live in Boca, and teach in Davie and Lake Worth. Hope to see some of you at a meeting somewhere sometime."
May 5, 2012
Dean Loring replied to Carrot Hare's discussion Atheists around the world! ASSEMBLE!
"New Yorker stuck in South Florida - Miami-Broward-Palm Beach Area"
May 5, 2012
Dean Loring replied to Madhukar Kulkarni's discussion Six questions to an atheist in the group ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN
"In a nutshell. There is no bridge over the abyss that separates the rational and the irrational. But, you realize we're debating each other to justify the website's existence."
Apr 15, 2012
Dean Loring replied to Madhukar Kulkarni's discussion Six questions to an atheist in the group ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN
"I recognize one question to an atheist as of primary importance over and above all other questions. The question is that of the existence of a single eternal, all powerful, all knowing, creator of the universe, specifically God. As Bertrand Russell…"
Apr 15, 2012

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Hi Dean! Have a very happy birthday.
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