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Why are so many atheists against prenatal personhood‽

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Why are so many atheist against prenatal personhood?

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Why are so many atheists pro-abortion-rights?

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Simon JM replied to Christopher Peter Robinson's discussion Why are so many atheists pro-abortion-rights?
"Hey CH do you know Thompson's Violinist Anaology by chance?"
Aug 14, 2010
boris urshugur replied to Christopher Peter Robinson's discussion Why are so many atheists pro-abortion-rights?
"because theyre more reasonable than theists."
May 2, 2010
Zachary J. Clark replied to Christopher Peter Robinson's discussion Why are so many atheists pro-abortion-rights?
"I know I am for abortion rights because: 1. We have over 7 billion people in the world. The more people we have the more deforstation will have to take place. Then there will be more trash, and more pollution then there was before. In my opinion we…"
Apr 29, 2010
Carrot Hare replied to Christopher Peter Robinson's discussion Why are so many atheists pro-abortion-rights?
"Holy crap everything about anti-abortionists piss me off. It's not just cause it's a concept brought on by religious assholes, but because it takes away one our most important civil rights through guilt. If life begins at conception then…"
Apr 29, 2010
Jezzy replied to Christopher Peter Robinson's discussion Why are so many atheists pro-abortion-rights?
"I was curious how people felt. It's one of those things that's never really brought up. It's always just assumed that the man bumped and left (which to be fair isn't unlikely). Naturally it's fair to think the decision is…"
Apr 29, 2010
Renee Gura replied to Christopher Peter Robinson's discussion Why are so many atheists pro-abortion-rights?
"I'm sorry, but this simply does not make sense. Self-defense is defense of your body - against the use of that body by another person/thing. The only self-defense that can occur at the time of sex is defense against a person using your body for…"
Apr 28, 2010
Prog Rock Girl replied to Christopher Peter Robinson's discussion Why are so many atheists pro-abortion-rights?
"It is a situation which doesn't have a compromise. It's reasonable for couples to talk it over, but ultimately if they still disagree, only one person has a say, and that person should be the one who is carrying it. The best thing to do…"
Apr 16, 2010
Prog Rock Girl replied to Christopher Peter Robinson's discussion Why are so many atheists pro-abortion-rights?
"You bring up a good point about fetal homicide laws. I think causing someone to miscarry has more of a penalty, and killing a pregnant woman is an aggravating factor. In my opinion this should be punished more, because it causing a miscarriage is an…"
Apr 16, 2010

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At 4:30pm on January 31, 2009, Rosemary LYNDALL WEMM said…
It seems your deceivin'forJezus ways have been found out. Thanks be to the belch of Felch.
At 8:28am on December 23, 2008, Фелч Гроган said…
This explains a lot - http://tinyurl.com/6hogmq

So Christopher, you spend an awful lot of time on http://www.prolifeamerica.com as -

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It is interesting to note when going through your posts there, that an awful lot of what you've chosen to "enlighten" us with here in our forum is little more than copy'n'paste collage of your previous ravings on prolifeamerica. A lot was taken from the link above. Much, much more can be found under your profile's links to your other posts.

This has cleared things up - you are not here to "discuss" anything. You're here to preach. To stand on a soap box and shout everyone that disagrees with you down. Whatever your claim to atheism may be is irrelevant - one thing you are not is a freethinker. You are a fundamentalist preacher, your church is pro-life. Your sig provides a nice summary -

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~A pro-life, liberal atheist
Don't pray/fast. Take action.

"When you're right, you can never be too radical."-MLK
"... morality cannot be legislated, behavior can be regulated ... the law cannot change the heart ... it can restrain the heartless"-MLK
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Your not going to leave us alone are you ? How many other sites do you bespatter with your garbage ?
At 7:17am on December 23, 2008, Фелч Гроган said…
Why are so many atheists against prenatal personhood‽

Italics Christopher Peter Robinson

Y'know, you're starting to sound like a one string guitar.

From part 1 -

Let's try this again...
http://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/why-are-so-many-atheists-2


OK. Lets finish with part 1 first, as posted in Politics.

Is it just for the sake of disagreeing with the religious? Is it because they see being anti-abortion-rights as being a strictly religious viewpoint? Are anti-abortion-rights atheists worried about fitting in? Is it just a coincidence?

What is your obsession with framing this in either a religious context, or "fitting in" ? Why do you conspicuously avoid the fact that maybe its just the independent opinions of freethinkers ? Why does there need to be some kind of mob mentality behind it ?

You reiterate this word for word in an entirely separate discussion here in Ethics & Morals [*] -

Is it just for the sake of disagreeing with the religious? Is it because they see being anti-abortion as being a strictly religious viewpoint? Are anti-abortion atheists worried about fitting in? Is it just a coincidence?

Is this point really worth stating twice, in two separate forums ? Why ?

(further in thread)

Just so you know, I am aware of the arguments for the pro-abortion side. I'm just wondering why the disproportionite number of pro-abortion atheists?

Can you clarify your point ? It has the same logic as stating "I'm just wondering why the disproportionite number of pro-abortion Libertarians ?" - which you claim to be.

(further on, a diversion into loony toon land)

And a man about to kill his daughter to collect on insurance may be making the hardest decision in his life, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't stop him.
[...]
Personal liberty is not unlimited.
(! - from the mouth of a self described Libertarian)

This is where you begin to lose me and start creating the unfortunate impression of a ham actor that's taken on a role that's far beyond his abilities as a Thespian.

(further on again and you start to downward spiral)

And the immorality of murder is a non-factual philosophy. Almost nobody would argue the KKK should be allowed to lynch people because their philosophy says blacks are not morally equal.
[...]
Some pro-slavery people thought it should be left up to each white man to decide whether or not to own a slave based on his own moral compass


Lynching blacks and slavery are related to abortion how ?

[*] - And why the need to double up on "My Sister's Deconversion" ? 1, 2

Now this thread -

There seems to be a disproportionate number of atheists who think the prenate is not a person. Why do so many atheists think sapience is the definer of personhood? Is it because they see it as being a strictly religious viewpoint? Are pro-prenatal-personhood atheists worried about fitting in? Is it just a coincidence?

This is starting to sound like a broken record. What are you fishing for really ?

Your repetitious methodology is virtually identical to some other posters that have been showing up as of late. You obviously want us to say something that you want to hear. But we must be stupid, 'cos we just don't get it. Spit it out and tell us, what is it you really want ? Your arguments go nowhere, after each response, you just seem to reel your line in and re-bait the hook and throw it back in hoping for someone to say something that you want to hear.

The similarities don't end there - your profile has bugger all information, no picture, no group memberships, and of the 38 discussions posted, abortion is virtually the only topic you want to discuss - in particular, why we are apparently so pro-, and whether we are that way purely to spit on religion.

Enough of your prodding, probing and goading. I'm calling you out now - explain your line of inquiry, and provide us with some evidence that you are not yet another reincarnation of one of these axe grinding monomaniacs that think they can keep rephrasing the same crap at nauseum until you get someone here to really snap back at you.

Our tolerance is simply amazing, don't you think ?
 
 
 

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