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personally (meaning completely my own opinion), i'm pro-choice NOT because it's going against religion and NOT just because i want to disagree with christians, but because i think:
1. it's a woman's right to do what she wants with her body, withou...
I would like to think that it has nothing to do with anti-religious kind of thinking, as one of the members before me already put it in words, we try to defend the freedom of choice.
Because God most certainly won't help you and it didn't make yo...
I have no right to tell another what to do with their body. Not even a wife, lover, daughter, sister, mother. "Pro-choice" means that I don't want the will of the state imposed on any woman's reproductive power. I can be personally opposed to abor...
I agree, I personally pro-choice. Its all about freethinking and not imposing one's will or morals on others.
It's a choice issue. It's that simple for me. I, personally, have no qualms with abortion but even if I did it would be none of my business.
yes, Christopher Robin, not only am I pro-choice to fit in with atheists, but it is the sole reason I had an abortion myself. Well, that, and because being an atheist just wasn't disagreement enough with religious folks.
Prior to my abortion, i h...
I was actually pro-choice (for a woman's right to have an abortion if she should need or want one) long before I considered myself atheist. Abortion is a medical procedure, and as with all medical procedures should be discussed only between the pa...
Reply by felch grogan on December 22, 2008 at 4:54pm
From a cynics perspective this issue is -
a) nobodies business but the immediate party's involved
b) (from our main page) "All authority deserves contempt. Rules are dispensable, as are custom...
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- At 4:30pm on January 31, 2009,
Rosemary LYNDALL WEMM said… - It seems your deceivin'forJezus ways have been found out. Thanks be to the belch of Felch.
- At 8:28am on December 23, 2008,
felch grogan said… - This explains a lot - http://tinyurl.com/6hogmq
So Christopher, you spend an awful lot of time on http://www.prolifeamerica.com as -
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It is interesting to note when going through your posts there, that an awful lot of what you've chosen to "enlighten" us with here in our forum is little more than copy'n'paste collage of your previous ravings on prolifeamerica. A lot was taken from the link above. Much, much more can be found under your profile's links to your other posts.
This has cleared things up - you are not here to "discuss" anything. You're here to preach. To stand on a soap box and shout everyone that disagrees with you down. Whatever your claim to atheism may be is irrelevant - one thing you are not is a freethinker. You are a fundamentalist preacher, your church is pro-life. Your sig provides a nice summary -
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~A pro-life, liberal atheist
Don't pray/fast. Take action.
"When you're right, you can never be too radical."-MLK
"... morality cannot be legislated, behavior can be regulated ... the law cannot change the heart ... it can restrain the heartless"-MLK
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Your not going to leave us alone are you ? How many other sites do you bespatter with your garbage ?
- At 7:17am on December 23, 2008,
felch grogan said…
- Why are so many atheists against prenatal personhood‽
Italics Christopher Peter Robinson
Y'know, you're starting to sound like a one string guitar.
From part 1 -
Let's try this again...
http://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/why-are-so-many-atheists-2
OK. Lets finish with part 1 first, as posted in Politics.
Is it just for the sake of disagreeing with the religious? Is it because they see being anti-abortion-rights as being a strictly religious viewpoint? Are anti-abortion-rights atheists worried about fitting in? Is it just a coincidence?
What is your obsession with framing this in either a religious context, or "fitting in" ? Why do you conspicuously avoid the fact that maybe its just the independent opinions of freethinkers ? Why does there need to be some kind of mob mentality behind it ?
You reiterate this word for word in an entirely separate discussion here in Ethics & Morals [*] -
Is it just for the sake of disagreeing with the religious? Is it because they see being anti-abortion as being a strictly religious viewpoint? Are anti-abortion atheists worried about fitting in? Is it just a coincidence?
Is this point really worth stating twice, in two separate forums ? Why ?
(further in thread)
Just so you know, I am aware of the arguments for the pro-abortion side. I'm just wondering why the disproportionite number of pro-abortion atheists?
Can you clarify your point ? It has the same logic as stating "I'm just wondering why the disproportionite number of pro-abortion Libertarians ?" - which you claim to be.
(further on, a diversion into loony toon land)
And a man about to kill his daughter to collect on insurance may be making the hardest decision in his life, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't stop him.
[...]
Personal liberty is not unlimited. (! - from the mouth of a self described Libertarian)
This is where you begin to lose me and start creating the unfortunate impression of a ham actor that's taken on a role that's far beyond his abilities as a Thespian.
(further on again and you start to downward spiral)
And the immorality of murder is a non-factual philosophy. Almost nobody would argue the KKK should be allowed to lynch people because their philosophy says blacks are not morally equal.
[...]
Some pro-slavery people thought it should be left up to each white man to decide whether or not to own a slave based on his own moral compass
Lynching blacks and slavery are related to abortion how ?
[*] - And why the need to double up on "My Sister's Deconversion" ? 1, 2
Now this thread -
There seems to be a disproportionate number of atheists who think the prenate is not a person. Why do so many atheists think sapience is the definer of personhood? Is it because they see it as being a strictly religious viewpoint? Are pro-prenatal-personhood atheists worried about fitting in? Is it just a coincidence?
This is starting to sound like a broken record. What are you fishing for really ?
Your repetitious methodology is virtually identical to some other posters that have been showing up as of late. You obviously want us to say something that you want to hear. But we must be stupid, 'cos we just don't get it. Spit it out and tell us, what is it you really want ? Your arguments go nowhere, after each response, you just seem to reel your line in and re-bait the hook and throw it back in hoping for someone to say something that you want to hear.
The similarities don't end there - your profile has bugger all information, no picture, no group memberships, and of the 38 discussions posted, abortion is virtually the only topic you want to discuss - in particular, why we are apparently so pro-, and whether we are that way purely to spit on religion.
Enough of your prodding, probing and goading. I'm calling you out now - explain your line of inquiry, and provide us with some evidence that you are not yet another reincarnation of one of these axe grinding monomaniacs that think they can keep rephrasing the same crap at nauseum until you get someone here to really snap back at you.
Our tolerance is simply amazing, don't you think ?
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That's pretty interesting and I'm fairly sure there are some drugs involved with the developements of such theories.
I'm a science fiction fan so when I think of the future I think of mega computers which could allow us to analyze huge amounts of ...
Here is the link again. Not sure why links don't seem to go up on A/N. I have had this happen more than once.
http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story/Godless-Billboard-Moved-After-Threats/W0iGN9STXUW0m6VF2g2Xeg.cspx
It is great to hear that this kin...
Hmm, I think it would feel awesome and liberating to sunbathe nude. Never really had a place to do that though.
You may live in one of those rare places that aren't hospitable to most wildlife, the sort of a place where only a human being (and their four-legged hangers-on, like rats and coyotes) would, or could, willingly reside.
In any case, once a cat ha...
Slurp, slurp, ~~~~~~~erp!~~~~~~~~
Yes!
I stood up last night at a Central Forum. AA New York only holds 4 of these each year in the U.S., and this weekend it was in my home town. I stood up and identified myself as the GSR for the Atheists and Spirituality group, and I know I heard a f...
this is also why I support the liberal idea of preventing crime by helping people slums and impoverished communities rather than making harsher punishments for them.
The prevention of crime is more important then the "revenge" aspect of punishment
Pascal came from a culture steeped in Christianity, its influence, its dominance, and its fear-mongering. Science in his time was hardly in its infancy, and the brand of rational thought we enjoy now was a stark rarity in his time. Anyone in Pasca...
(In =P) my experience, people who know that their bad behavior will go unpunished are more likely to act badly in the future.
ok, but that is rather childish thinking. I don't think that a lot of people here are like that. We are all here pursuin...
Why do we exist?
As far as I can tell, we're here simply as the result of a series of fortunate accidents. Life arose on this planet by natural processes and humans are just one of the myriads of experimental life forms that evolution produced.
His shape or his habits?
To my experience, people who know that their bad behavior will go unpunished are more likely to act badly in the future. We still have the ability to observe the effects of cause and effect and this does effect our behavior.
What you've described...
Rather than asking myselfself "What if there is a God?" I ask myself "What sensible reasons do I have to suspect there might be a God?" The answer, of course, is none.
I find this simple process usefull when analyzing other propositions, like "Wh...
On a positive note, The Cincinnati Atheists Meetup Group has had quite an influx of new members since this happened.
As far as we can tell the universe is a closed system. There are numerous theories on parallel or multiverses but they are far too speculative at this point. It is difficult to comprehend that something so vast be closed. I can not identify a loca...
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