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At wit's end with evolution deniers...
Started this discussion. Last reply by Napoleon Bonaparte Dec 24, 2012. 16 Replies 1 Like
Hi everyone,I'm new here, this is my first post, so please bear with me! This will be kind of a venting rant, but I hope in does invoke some meaningful discussion as well.I just don't understand…Continue
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Napoleon Bonaparte replied to Catherine Wallace's discussion At wit's end with evolution deniers...
"Well, you can talk about dogs. You don't even need fossils because the domestication of the wolf and the diversification of dog breeds has all happened in the last 15,000 years.
If that doesn't work you will need to punch the…"
James Kz replied to Catherine Wallace's discussion At wit's end with evolution deniers...
"Then there is the issue of the Feathered dinosaur. But those in denial will simply say, as such dinosaurs fit right between dinosaurs and Archaeopteryx, "But what about between dinosaurs and feathered dinosaurs, and between feathered dinosaurs…"
Napoleon Bonaparte replied to Catherine Wallace's discussion At wit's end with evolution deniers...
"I don't think I have ever met a fundamentalist but I think they might like interesting stories, like the natural history of birds. A transitional bird fossil was found in slate during the 19th century called Archaeopteryx. It…"
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James Kz replied to Catherine Wallace's discussion At wit's end with evolution deniers...
"On demonstrablilty, there are the studies of the evolution of fruit flies, but even those studies have only gone on as many generations as perhaps twelve thousand years human scale. There has not been much change in humans in that span of time, one…"
lucas ferguson replied to Catherine Wallace's discussion At wit's end with evolution deniers...
"Thanks for the reply James. Yes, I agree my numbers are meaningless. As I stated there were there to try and illustrate my point. Also, I was using hundreds of years to try and be generous, I know the timescale is actually longer.
I know all forms…"
Madhukar Kulkarni replied to Catherine Wallace's discussion At wit's end with evolution deniers...
"That the transitional forms should be like half whale-half giraffe is a very erroneous argument. Homo habilis, homo erectus and homo sapiens are transitional forms of evolving humans and there is evidence of their existence.
Those who need to…"
amer chohan replied to Catherine Wallace's discussion At wit's end with evolution deniers...
"I really hate calling people unintelligent or irrational (Catherine)
I have (as a biology teacher) always referred to evolution as the theories of evolution.(Jim)
Both of these factors count in people denying evolution. Long and slow…"
Jim DePaulo replied to Catherine Wallace's discussion At wit's end with evolution deniers...
"Indeed. Evolution is not a theory it's a process that is definable and demonstrable just as other processes are, such as metabolism, photosynthesis or ecological succession . There are however, mechanisms inherent in those processes that are…"
James Kz replied to Catherine Wallace's discussion At wit's end with evolution deniers...
"Again, as noted above, we are fortunate to have any fossils at all, considering how difficult it is to create a fossil and the number of changes the Earth's crust has undergone.
That said, science advances by consensus. Evolution is the…"
lucas ferguson replied to Catherine Wallace's discussion At wit's end with evolution deniers...
"I find this interesting because despite being an atheist, I do not accept evolution, and one of the reasons for this is the "lack of transitional forms" argument. I would appreciate any feedback people have (but not just a link to an…"
Loren Miller replied to Catherine Wallace's discussion At wit's end with evolution deniers...
"Thinking about mind-viruses:
Christianity alters your identity to insure the survival of ITSELF.-- from Prplfox's video series - http://ning.it/R2isGS"
Ruth Anthony-Gardner replied to Catherine Wallace's discussion At wit's end with evolution deniers...
"I normally avoid trying to have a serious discussion with fundamentalists, unless they insist. Then I let them know that religion is a mind virus which infects human hosts.
Like other viruses, religious memeplexes perpetuate themselves by infection.…"
Loren Miller left a comment for Catherine Wallace
"Greets and salutes, Catherine, and welcome to Atheist Nexus!"
Loren Miller replied to Catherine Wallace's discussion At wit's end with evolution deniers...
"I should mention that the video above is Chapter 1 of 12. Here is the complete, single-piece video of the program, if you don't want to have to fuss with watching it in segments."
Comment Wall (5 comments)
- At 5:42pm on December 22, 2012,
Loren Miller said… Greets and salutes, Catherine, and welcome to Atheist Nexus!
- At 10:52pm on December 8, 2012,
Brent Feeney said… Welcome aboard! =) Hope you're doing well today - keep plugging away at your recovery!
- At 4:24pm on December 8, 2012,
Dr. Terence Meaden said… Hi Catherine
Welcome to this world of rationality and peace, where pure common sense is enough to lead to the open freethinking wisdom common to non-believers like you and us.
We invite you to join the busy group "ORIGINS: Universe, Astronomy, Life, Earth, Humans, Religion, Gods, Atheism, Evolution, Darwin..." with 700 discussion topics and 3700 members.
http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/originsuniverselifehumankindanddarwin
Terry
- At 8:43pm on December 7, 2012,
Steph S. said… Greetings! Welcome to the site!
- At 12:46pm on December 7, 2012,
Lillie said… Welcome, Catherine. Unfortunately it does take time to recover from our religious upbringing. Just proves how much brainwashing occurs. However, A/N can definitely help with this.
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