"Greta, the problem might also be with the term "atheists". Believers seem to think that "atheists" have to be one thing (strong atheist), and that means we have to prove that God doesn't exist, which is of course…"

"I don't see it as tricky. You just have to know when you've won. When the only response is fallacy, or "you're giving me more faith", then I count that as a win. I don't expect people to convert on the spot, but…"

"I recently used a line of argumentation that was basically inspired by what Sam Harris said at the La Ciudad debate. My experience in taking on those who defend the faith is that we can win any argument if we do the following: 1. Not have a problem…"

"Nvm folks, while these guys are skilled apologists, the actual debate has since degraded into utter depravity. Once their evidence is shown to be bad, they turned to usual apologetic fallacies; attacking a form of atheism that isn't in play,…"

"This might be a better link. I'd skip to the end to get past all the other side's loooooong and useless argumentation. I'm just tooting my own horn, but I think there's some useful stuff in there that would contribute to the…"

"Check this out: One atheist vs. four apologists"

"I find that a variation of Sam Harris's short reply to Rabbi Schmuley Boteach is probably the best way to refute Christianity. Seen here. Basically, we don't have to prove the absence of god; all we have to do in order to reject…"