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  • Daniel W

    Randy, my Asian and hybrid persimmon trees are settled in nicely. It might be the rootstock that determines success with transplanting. I read American persimmons - Diospyros virginiana - have few fibrous roots, and they don't regenerate well, so they are difficult to transplant. Similar for Asian, Diospyros kaki. Mine are on a different species - Diospyros lotus - which is more fibrous snd transplants easier, but not as hardy.

    Starks has several that are reported on many websites as not needing a male - parthenocarpic. One, Yates, is from Indiana. Others are from collectors and research programs. Meader is self- fruitful but occassionally has male flowers. Some kaki do that too.

    I like what you did best of all. Growing from seed. that really is great! But at 60, and having cancer, I dont want to wait 10 years. Might never see them bear. I have to be realistic. Better chance with the 3 to 5 years to bear for the named types. Of course it's always a gamble.

    The Starks persimmons are tiny - 1 to 2 foot tall. They are in air pots - bottomless pots that supposedly have bushier roots due to "air pruning" of the root tips. They claim they transplant easier. I imagine they are on D. virginiana roots, being from Missouri. One to 2 foot tall... That really is tiny. But my figs start out as cuttings, smaller, so I suppose it's possible.
  • Daniel W

    "I have often thought that if heaven had given me choice of my position and calling, it should have been on a rich spot of earth, well watered, and near a good market for the productions of the garden. No occupation is so delightful to me as the culture of the earth, and no culture comparable to that of the garden. Such a variety of subjects, some one always coming to perfection, the failure of one thing repaired by the success of another, and instead of one harvest a continued one through the year." --- Thomas Jefferson (August 20, 1811, to Charles W. Peale)

  • Joan Denoo

    According to "Edible Landscaping",  "The American persimmon (D. virginiana) is a faster growing, larger tree that's hardy to USDA zone 5." So, there is a possibility I could succeed with one here. I have a spot that needs filling. I will chat with my Extention Agent when I get a chance. 

    Daniel, I like the Jefferson quote. I went to The Republic, Volume 3 By John Robert Irelan site and read a little more of Jefferson's quote.  

    I am intrigued by the man, Jefferson, his devotion to the creation of a new republic based on human freedom, even as he owned slaves. I read of his attempts to get a wine growing enterprise going in a new country, even as he neglected the many grape cuttings sent to him from Europe and the Americas.