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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Greta Christina: Why Being Liberal Really Is Better Than Being Conservative

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat yesterday. 10 Replies

Worth a read! Greta Christina explains philosopher Rebecca Goldstein's observation on a fundamental difference between "liberal" and "conservative" core values, and why things aren't as simple as "agreeing to disagree" between two "equally valid"…Continue

Tags: purity, democracy, loyalty, authority, avoidance of harm

You Can't Educate People Into Believing in Evolution

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 1. 4 Replies

"Hill found that religious belief was the strongest determinant of people's views on evolution—much more so than education, socioeconomic status, age, political views, or region of the country. More importantly, "Creationists are substantially more…Continue

Tags: confront, evolution, creationism, beliefs

Karen Armstrong is dangerous

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sheeva Nov 25. 17 Replies

"Karen Armstrong is dangerous. She’s dangerous because her blanket of tedious verbiage hides the truth that she wants us to completely ignore the dangers of religious dogma.  It appears that for her, there is no harmful dogma that can be pinned on…Continue

Tags: oppression, nihilism, politics, religious dogma, Karen Armstrong

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Comment by Joan Denoo on September 23, 2012 at 7:08pm

Daniel, my paragraph didn't read very clearly, did it! I had the same reaction when I re-read it as you. 

Comment by Daniel W on September 23, 2012 at 6:42pm

Joan, to read your clarification then read the line "A little dust off, a splash in a pan of water and then to their mouths; their eyes sparkle with delight. "  That is so funny!

Comment by sk8eycat on September 23, 2012 at 3:48pm

Joan, that's delightful, in a snarky kind of way.  And it's all true!

One thing that was omitted was the female pelvis; in order for us to be able to walk upright (sort of), the pelvic opening for the birth canal is too narrow for our offspring to be delivered fully formed and able to walk the way other mammals' younglings are.  Thus the prolonged childhood and adolescence, and dependence on parents.

Of course, I think it would be ghastly to have to carry a fetus to toddler-size! 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 23, 2012 at 1:25pm

Loren, as usual your words holds so much truth. I suspect I don't need to be as angry as I have been because I feel the bindings are now gone. Even though the issue is serious, it doesn't have to be grim. I read some history on J.D. Rockefeller this morning and realized how much his beliefs paralleled Romney's; we know how awful that turned out. Gaining great wealth on the backs of people who worked for them, and yet many citizens do not vote in their best interests. I am really interested to see how this election turns out. I have this silly vision of human beings bent into pretzels trying to make it in this Alice-In-Wonderland-world. I wonder if this generation of people-pretzels have to die off before we get our country back?

Hope your Sunday is relaxing and fun. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 23, 2012 at 12:04pm

Do I need to clarify that the kids don't eat the worms, it is the fruits, vegetables and herbs?

Comment by Loren Miller on September 23, 2012 at 12:00pm

Joan, society bends over backwards because so many of them have been co-opted by the lie of religion, and because they're afraid of retribution, either from the god they worship or their self-righteous neighbors.

Then, of course, we come in and throw a monkey wrench into their works by not accepting any of it and challenging all of it.  In places, we scare believers out of their wits ... and for multiple reasons, most of which have to do with lies told and lies hidden.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 23, 2012 at 11:47am

Richard Dawkins, Society bends over backwards

Not being able to speak one's understanding of how the world works and how we are to function in living feels like a piece of masking tape over my mouth and a mind-binder over my brain that tightly prevents thought and speech. To what end? Who benefits? Who pay the price?
When confronted with a statement based on religious beliefs I must give my perspective. What good am I if I don't give my perspective? Am I just a mirror, or a CD of your beliefs? NO! Of course not. I am created with a mind and a mouth and I intend to use them both. If the evidence changes or my understanding changes, I am more than happy to change. Until then, expect me to speak and act from my best understandings.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 23, 2012 at 10:39am

The good news is, many of us seek and find a more fulfilling mode of making a living; we learn how to live with rhythms of nature, enjoy each precious moment we have alive, feel a sense of pride of being part of it all and able to see the broader view of life and living things.

One little thing, I grow soil to raise food crops without chemicals; the end product is so far superior and the neighbor kids love to come over to watch my helper worms. Kids scamper through paths as they pick and eat a wide range of flavors, right from the soil. A little dust off, a splash in a pan of water and then to their mouths; their eyes sparkle with delight. Nothing like it happens when I return from the store. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 23, 2012 at 10:11am

Loren, I think you are right and I wonder how and what he transmitted to his children and their children? These mixed messages could only confuse. I also wonder if any of his offspring ever realized the consequences of his actions? Saw the poverty left in his wake? 

Comment by Loren Miller on September 23, 2012 at 9:01am

Joan, I read your last two entries regarding John D. Rockefeller, his faith versus his philosophy about money making, and I find I can't imagine the compartmentalization he must have practiced to be functional in his own life.  This had to be a man who didn't dare look too closely at himself, lest cognitive dissonance tear him apart.

 
 
 

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