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Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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"Tax Free" - a Music Video by Betty Bowers, Music by Joni Mitchell

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller yesterday. 5 Replies

I can hear it now: "Wait a minute!  What is a music video doing in a group called, 'Politics, Economics and Religion?'  Betty Bowers is more about satire and parody than any of those issues.  Shouldn't this be in another group?"And I have to answer…Continue

Tags: church, Tax Free, Joni Mitchell, Betty Bowers

Controversial Recovering From Religion Hotline a Hot Commodity

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by Loren Miller on Thursday. 4 Replies

According to Valerie Tarico, business is hot and heavy at the new Recovering from Religion Hotline. If so, this is…Continue

Tags: escaping religion

Using the Legal System to Fight Factory Farms - Michele Merkel (TEDxManhattan)

Started by Loren Miller on Thursday. 0 Replies

Think your food and/or farming isn't political?  Think again.  Michele Merkel has been up against the corporate factory farm system, initially with the EPA and later as an independent campaigner when the EPA caved to corporate pressure.  In the…Continue

Tags: EPA, farms, factory, , Michele, Merkel", TED

Atheists: In godlessness we trust (CBS News)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Alan Perlman Apr 19. 4 Replies

A Sunday morning in church is not in the cards for those who say they're "beyond belief" -- beyond belief in the God of Scripture, anyway. And for some, the abandonment of their faith wasn't easy. Our Cover Story now from Mo Rocca:Visit Jackson,…Continue

Tags: CBS, atheism, Sunday Morning, Openly Secular, CBS News

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Comment by Joan Denoo on June 24, 2013 at 12:59am

Have you ever read the bible cover to cover? I have. I can be no other than an atheist as a result.

A Compilation of Biblical Quotations by Barbara G. Walker

Thanks Richard Goscicki

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 24, 2013 at 12:56am
Have you ever stood at the top of a canyon with amazement for all the time and energy it took to create it? Or stood out under the stars on a warm summer night and glory at the space those specks of light represent? Or looked at all the diversity of living things and realize it all started as green algae in some pri-mordial sea? Or look into a microscope or through a telescope and wonder at all the many elements involved in natural things? The sense of wonderment, awe, and respect for all that exists gives me a feeling of great privilege to be conscious of all this in this extremely short period of time I have to live on this Earth and see all that is around me. I am part of a network of living things with all the elements required to make all living things survive.

"If you think that all of the answers to life's questions are in a book that was written by men who thought the Sun orbited around the Earth, you need a new book. A 3rd grade science book is a good start."
~ S

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 24, 2013 at 12:51am

There are outstanding teachings and practices one can find in Buddhism . When one gets into the mystical, magical dogma of mythology that grew up around him, I have to say "NO! Too much!" When I learn of the brutality of some Buddhist practices by some factions, again I can only say "NO!"

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 24, 2013 at 12:45am

How does one make a decision, solve a problem, resolve a conflict? Each person has a process; does it lead to flourishing, justice, peace?

Hitch didn't make any sense on his stand about the Iraq war. But then, he often didn't make sense on a lot of things. On the other hand (oh that darned other hand), he could let out a blast that would send my spirits soaring. How could anyone disagree with his, "It isn't what you think, it is how you think." It seems to me if one thinks critically, takes in information, observes, pays attention to consequences, is interested in a broad view of life, the outcome will be better than if one looks to others for answers. Sure, I want opinions. It is my job to sort it all out and decide what makes sense to me. 
Just look at the mess we are in now. Is that because people thought independently and expressed resistance to outrageous policies and practices. I don't think so. I think those who obey without thinking, who salute the flag without paying attention what is going on, who are patriotic to a corrupt government, who work for a dominionist, then that is how we get into this mess. Furthermore, underlying all this mess is religion. Any religion.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 24, 2013 at 12:30am
"Is anyone else's patience frayed to the snapping point with self-proclaimed progressives who bandy the term traitor at Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald and who proffer the platitude that these men committed a crime and they should be willing to be returned stateside due to their treasonous transgressions? (To be submitted to torture, I suppose, as was the case with Bradley Manning.)

"In reality, Snowden's and Greenwald's offense consists of this: Revealing the totalitarian nature (worse than Richard Nixon's and George W. Bush's offenses against Constitutional guarantees) of the Obama administration (that has prosecuted and jailed more whistleblowers than all U.S. administrations combined) and the consequent hypocrisy of his habitual apologists who would raising an indignant cry up to the high heavens if a fraction of these anti-constitutional, anti-human rights violations had occurred during, let's say, a Romney administration. 

"By these actions, you partisan tools have destroyed any credibility you might have possessed when protesting the authoritarian outrages of Republicans. Of course, that subtlety will never occur to you. Such is the nature of partisan jerk-rocketry."
~ Phil Rockstroh
How can a USA citizen stand tall and proud while our presidents use torture that yields unreliable information, there is a "KILL LIST" authorized by our leader, Constitutional law breaking without recourse, jailing whistleblowers who reveal things that the public needs to know? To not stand up against these abuses of power cannot make our nation stronger. It erodes our principles, even we have never lived up to them. 
There is no honor in saluting a flag of a corrupt nation.
Comment by Joan Denoo on June 24, 2013 at 12:12am

The government, military/industrial complex, Chamber of Commerce, and Oligarchs want our nation to be strong. That is a noble goal. 

By what means do you intend to accomplish that? 
By withdrawing support of food for our poor? 
By giving corporations the power of a single person? 
By deficit spending? 
By tax cuts to the rich, 
By corporate tax cuts and loopholes? 
By military spending in Iraq and Afghanistan? 
By killing people without trial? 
By destroying other people’s villages and infrastructure? 
Explain to me how these policies and practices make USA strong?

Comment by tom sarbeck on June 23, 2013 at 3:23am

Joan, thank you for all of those.

I copied/pasted the Genesis pic to an MSWord doc and grew it to 5 by 5 inches. To help xian friends explain I will show them copies.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 22, 2013 at 9:46pm

Life begins at conception ... no ... at first breath ... no ... I'm confused ... no ... the believers are confused. 


Thanks Rebecca York

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 22, 2013 at 9:43pm

ALLOWING!? There is the source of your delusion. Women have minds, bodies and spirits and need no one's permission or direction. Get over it!

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 22, 2013 at 9:41pm

"Atheists shouldn't be ashamed of their Atheism. Atheism is something to be proud of, it is a reflection of serious thought, and coming out helps others who are struggling to come out as Atheist, Agnostic, Humanist, or nonreligious."

Jonathan Figdor

Shame doesn't belong to the women, non-whites, anti-religious and LGBTQ.
It resides in the minds, beliefs and actions of people who are misogynists, racists, bigots, homophobic and supremacists. 


Being a skeptic, questioner, doubter, examiner, unbeliever, infidel all reflect an independence of thought, and taking responsibility for one's self and respect for others. There is value in diversity.

We humans are a part of a tree of life, a web that includes many other species, Diversity is the key word here. We participate in life with many other organisms and have no right to feel superior. 

 
 
 
 

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