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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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The Tyranny of Growth

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck yesterday. 5 Replies

This issue comes to my mind a lot.  For anyone who works for any corporation, it must come up at some time.If there is a "10 Commandments" of capitalism, or a "10 Lessons of the MBA", the centrality of "grow-or-die" must be up there.  Maybe it's the…Continue

How much change can Pope Francis bring to the Catholic Church? (CBS News)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck on Monday. 2 Replies

The "mass appeal" of Pope Francis was on clear view as he celebrated Easter at the Vatican this morning. Popular as he is, he is still just one man, and the church he leads is large and complex. Mark Phillips reports from Rome: It's not too…Continue

Tags: content, style, change, Pope Francis

Externalized risk rushing back to bite us in the

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 15. 0 Replies

As the 1% sucks up ever more wealth, the US infrastructure is ready to implode. To cut taxes on the ultra wealthy, we've rotted the physical and cultural supports upon which our society depends.…Continue

Tags: nuclear safety, chemical storage facility safety, maintenance, education funding, US infrastructure

MAN meaning Human, I assume

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 12. 2 Replies

Thanks to WELCOME TO ECO-LOGICAL: A GROUP FOR ENVIRONMENTALISTS/ and moderator, Dallas the Phallus. Continue

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Comment by Loren Miller on September 23, 2012 at 12:00pm

Joan, society bends over backwards because so many of them have been co-opted by the lie of religion, and because they're afraid of retribution, either from the god they worship or their self-righteous neighbors.

Then, of course, we come in and throw a monkey wrench into their works by not accepting any of it and challenging all of it.  In places, we scare believers out of their wits ... and for multiple reasons, most of which have to do with lies told and lies hidden.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 23, 2012 at 11:47am

Richard Dawkins, Society bends over backwards

Not being able to speak one's understanding of how the world works and how we are to function in living feels like a piece of masking tape over my mouth and a mind-binder over my brain that tightly prevents thought and speech. To what end? Who benefits? Who pay the price?
When confronted with a statement based on religious beliefs I must give my perspective. What good am I if I don't give my perspective? Am I just a mirror, or a CD of your beliefs? NO! Of course not. I am created with a mind and a mouth and I intend to use them both. If the evidence changes or my understanding changes, I am more than happy to change. Until then, expect me to speak and act from my best understandings.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 23, 2012 at 10:39am

The good news is, many of us seek and find a more fulfilling mode of making a living; we learn how to live with rhythms of nature, enjoy each precious moment we have alive, feel a sense of pride of being part of it all and able to see the broader view of life and living things.

One little thing, I grow soil to raise food crops without chemicals; the end product is so far superior and the neighbor kids love to come over to watch my helper worms. Kids scamper through paths as they pick and eat a wide range of flavors, right from the soil. A little dust off, a splash in a pan of water and then to their mouths; their eyes sparkle with delight. Nothing like it happens when I return from the store. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 23, 2012 at 10:11am

Loren, I think you are right and I wonder how and what he transmitted to his children and their children? These mixed messages could only confuse. I also wonder if any of his offspring ever realized the consequences of his actions? Saw the poverty left in his wake? 

Comment by Loren Miller on September 23, 2012 at 9:01am

Joan, I read your last two entries regarding John D. Rockefeller, his faith versus his philosophy about money making, and I find I can't imagine the compartmentalization he must have practiced to be functional in his own life.  This had to be a man who didn't dare look too closely at himself, lest cognitive dissonance tear him apart.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 23, 2012 at 8:52am

“The way to make money ...

“The way to make money is to buy when blood is running in the streets.

~ John D. Rockefeller, USA oil magnate”

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 23, 2012 at 8:04am

God gave me my money.

“God gave me my money. I believe the power to make money is a gift from God … to be developed and used to the best of our ability for the good of mankind. Having been endowed with the gift I possess, I believe it is my duty to make money and still more money and to use the money I make for the good of my fellow man according to the dictates of my conscience.

“JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER, interview in 1905.—Peter Collier and David Horowitz, The Rockefellers, an American Dynasty, chapter 3, p. 48 (1976).

“Rockefeller assumed giving to charity was a Christian duty, and did so throughout his life. Later in life he began to “have the semimystical feeling that he had been especially selected as the frail vessel for the great fortune” (p. 48)”

Rockefeller, John Davison (1839-1937)

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 23, 2012 at 12:20am

What’s the Harm in Religion?

"People often ask atheists, “Why does it matter what other people believe? Isn’t it their own choice? Isn’t it okay as long as it doesn’t harm anyone?”

"The answer to this is “Of course it doesn’t matter, as long as it doesn’t harm anyone else.” And herein lies the problem with religions; they, by their nature, encroach upon the non-religious areas of life and influence decisions on a social and political level.

"People can believe what they like in private; this is a very important part of living in a free and equitable society, the freedom of and from religion."

"Religion is the opposite of humanism; it raises the few up above the masses, it harms in the name of a non-human entity, it interferes with social rights and hijacks progress over and over and over again."

Martin S Pribble on September 22, 2012

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 22, 2012 at 10:46pm

Neil deGrasse Tyson on Intelligent Design

Are we seeing a trend? First Bill Nye, now Tyson.

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 22, 2012 at 10:39pm

Buffoon Award Winner — The Intelligent Designer

1.  Teeth are troublesome, they decay, they don’t replace themselves, and there are too many of them for the size of our jaws.

2.  spines seem to cause trouble for half of humanity.

3.  hearts are inadequate, 

4.  knees cause trouble, 

5.  eyes go bad, and even when our vision is “good” we’re blind to most of the spectrum. Were we able to see infra-red radiation we’d be much better equipped for night vision. Ultra violet vision might have informed us about the universe long before we had to fashion instruments to augment our senses.

6.  sensory equipment is inadequate compared to “lower” animals. that have far superior senses of taste, smell, and hearing.

7.  control system for the disposal of solid waste defective.

8.  lost limbs or organs cannot be regenerate.

9.  In human males, the urethra passes through the prostate gland that is very prone to infection and subsequent enlargement.

10. intake for air, water, and food all goes through our throat, one all-purpose intake orifice, making choking a high probability. 

11. output system for waste water is entwined with our reproductive system. Our system for the output of waste product (urine) and our system for the output of real products (reproduction) are scrambled together. They use the same duct-work.

Even a dog food factory would be better designed than we are. If we were designed, that is.

 

 
 
 

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