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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Atheists: In godlessness we trust (CBS News)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by tom sarbeck 1 hour ago. 3 Replies

A Sunday morning in church is not in the cards for those who say they're "beyond belief" -- beyond belief in the God of Scripture, anyway. And for some, the abandonment of their faith wasn't easy. Our Cover Story now from Mo Rocca:Visit Jackson,…Continue

Tags: CBS, atheism, Sunday Morning, Openly Secular, CBS News

Worker's Compensation Disappearing Fast

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Thursday. 3 Replies

Employers who kill their employees on the job used to at least have to pay into Worker's Comp, which would pay some small compensation to families and for the funeral. Not anymore.…Continue

Tags: corporate depraved indifference, Workman's Compensation

Richard Dawkins - Intelligence Squared debate: "Atheism is the New Fundamentalism."

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Alan Perlman on Thursday. 4 Replies

We've all heard the argument: "Atheism is just another religion," "Atheists are strident / angry / whatever," "Atheism is just another form of fundamentalism," and doubtless you are as sick of these vacuous assertions as I am.  Allow me, then, to…Continue

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Violence in Defense of Christian Privilege - Ed Brayton - Reasonfest 2014

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 11. 3 Replies

One of the first things I wrote as a member of Atheist Nexus was a blog entry I called Easy Rider Redux, wherein I mused about the possibility of the…Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on April 5, 2013 at 2:37pm
"a collective capitalist" ... that sounds feasible. I read Richard Wolff, and your style resembles his. Are you familiar with his work. Like capitalism, Marxism has not been implemented as he defines it, and I wonder if it can be.
Do you have authors you can recommend?

Richard Wolff, Marxist Economist
http://billmoyers.com/guest/richard-wolff/
Comment by tom sarbeck on April 5, 2013 at 10:18am

...a different form of government that works?

Always, always, always ask "...that works for the governed."

Daniel Webster (the pre-Civil War New Hampshire DW) is reputed to have said that when the people make the decisions they won't go too far wrong, but when they let others make decisions for them they can't go right.

People sometimes ask me if I'm a socialist.

When the situation allows for some humor, I reply "I don't want the people who brought us IRS Form 1040 to bring us everything."

When I'm serious I say I'm a collective capitalist; I want employees to own and operate their workplaces. When these owner/operators need managers with special skills, they can hire (and fire) them. When they need capital, they can borrow it from investors.

Instead of the Marxian surplus value going to Wall Street gambling addicts, it goes to the owner/operators. These people might occasionally need bailouts, but taxpayer money will go to taxpayers, not to Wall Street gamblers.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 4, 2013 at 11:58pm

Has anyone come across a different form of government that works? 

Capitalistic societies produce inequalities as well as Booms and Busts. After a bust, protection of labor increases their share of profits from production of goods and services. Over years, booms sucks money out of labor into capitalist's bank accounts. It happened many times in USA. 

Business Booms and Depressions Since 1775

Socialism is a form of government that owns, regulates and administrates the production and distribution of goods and services as it attempts to reduce social, economic, medical, and political inequalities among its’ people.

"Socialism's cons: 

Higher Cost than other forms of government, with higher taxes. 

Less Entrepreneurship to start new companies and/or restrict existing companies from being very dynamic. 

Less Rags-to-Riches as poorest people tend to not work harder, get a higher education, and innovate, because they are guaranteed a minimum standard of comfortable living. 

Big Government means more taxes, bigger bureaucracy, and more power in the government’s hands. Because governments tend to be  slow to change, it tends to mean stagnation and less innovation."

The Pros and Cons of Socialism

I wonder if all this is true? I don't know. 

What about labor owned enterprises? 

Richard Wolff on Curing Capitalism  March 22, 2013.

Comment by tom sarbeck on April 4, 2013 at 3:25pm

"BAILOUTS: From each according to his ability, to each according to his lack thereof."

Great!

A paraphrase?

"BAILOUTS: From America's wealthy a tiny fraction of their ability; to America's wealthy amounts proportional to their investments in politicians' needs."

Comment by tom sarbeck on April 4, 2013 at 3:18pm

GC and Joan,

Doesn't the Federal Deposit Insurance (FDIC) program "bail out", or protect, depositors? FDIC has been around all of my adult life and I figured it to be one of FDR's Depression-era programs.

Far left critics can attack FDIC by saying that protecting depositors also protected capitalism, but attacking capitalism's excesses by pitching small depositors to the wolves deserves little consideration.

I see Clinton's Glass-Steagall repeal, which let the gambling-addicts' banks use FDIC-insured deposits, as a gift to the gamblers.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 4, 2013 at 11:24am

CIA Drone Strikes in Pakistan 2004–2013
Casualty Estimates, The Bureau of Investigative Journalis

Living things exist as so much fodder for imperialism, cultures have no value to those who do not respect history, principles have no influence on decisions. The USA citizens pays for all this madness.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 4, 2013 at 1:37am

Grinning Cat,  "bailing out the individual account holders" makes a whole lot more sense to me! This experiment they tried proved to be a sham; why do they think they can get away with it again? 

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 4, 2013 at 12:38am

"BAILOUTS:
 From each according to his ability,
 to each according to his lack thereof."

Lots of truth there!

What's wrong with bailing out the individual account holders rather than the bank?

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on April 3, 2013 at 11:42pm

Thanks for the concise overview of your personal life, and P4, and the hilarious Too Pig to Fail cartoon. I couldn't read the last word in the Bailouts image. Do you really think the banks themselves should be given the job of deciding how best to split themselves up? thus far "regulators" haven't been worth a tinker's dam.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 3, 2013 at 10:10pm

 
 
 

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