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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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The Tyranny of Growth

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck yesterday. 5 Replies

This issue comes to my mind a lot.  For anyone who works for any corporation, it must come up at some time.If there is a "10 Commandments" of capitalism, or a "10 Lessons of the MBA", the centrality of "grow-or-die" must be up there.  Maybe it's the…Continue

How much change can Pope Francis bring to the Catholic Church? (CBS News)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck on Monday. 2 Replies

The "mass appeal" of Pope Francis was on clear view as he celebrated Easter at the Vatican this morning. Popular as he is, he is still just one man, and the church he leads is large and complex. Mark Phillips reports from Rome: It's not too…Continue

Tags: content, style, change, Pope Francis

Externalized risk rushing back to bite us in the

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 15. 0 Replies

As the 1% sucks up ever more wealth, the US infrastructure is ready to implode. To cut taxes on the ultra wealthy, we've rotted the physical and cultural supports upon which our society depends.…Continue

Tags: nuclear safety, chemical storage facility safety, maintenance, education funding, US infrastructure

MAN meaning Human, I assume

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 12. 2 Replies

Thanks to WELCOME TO ECO-LOGICAL: A GROUP FOR ENVIRONMENTALISTS/ and moderator, Dallas the Phallus. Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on October 22, 2013 at 7:57pm

Tea Party Logic

With the courage to shut down the government ...

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 17, 2013 at 12:41pm

Loren, I very much like your addition of Consequentialism. That is an important part of problem solving: look at the consequences of the action before making a decision about its value. 

Comment by Grinning Cat on October 17, 2013 at 10:06am

Thanks, Joan and Loren!

Last month Kacie Tsao told us about the Flash game "Socrates Jones: Pro Philosopher", where you, playing an accountant, have to try to rescue yourself and your daughter by rebutting many flawed arguments about the sources of morality.

Comment by Loren Miller on October 17, 2013 at 8:21am

And one more, Joan: Consequentialism.

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 16, 2013 at 10:02pm

Here are some links to information about soures of morality 

Major Moral Theories

(1) Utilitarianism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_utilitarianism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_utilitarianism

(2) Kantianism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantianism

(3) Social Contract Theory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract

(4) Virtue Ethics

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ethics-virtue/

(5) Care Ethics/Ethics of Care/Feminist Ethics (Esp. Carol Gilligan)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_of_care 

(6) One Concern: Moral Relativism - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism

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Jonathan Figdor

 16 October 17:33

AHA!@Stanford: Sources of Morality Discussion

Comment by Sentient Biped on October 15, 2013 at 7:51pm
I think just about the only people who are not disgusted by the behavior of those politicians, is the peope who voted them into office. Narcissistic backward foolish selfish bullying arrogant asses.
Comment by Grinning Cat on October 15, 2013 at 7:15pm

Apropos "This Baby Bargains Like the Tea Party":

jaredbrain commented on the HuffPost page:

When I was a kid I would always get in trouble when my mom baked cookies. There'd be this big sheet of hot delicious fresh from the oven, and I would be given one or two. But I wanted ALL the cookies, and if I couldn't have them all then I didn't want any! Cue me kicking and screaming and flailing around like a spoiled self interested brat.

I had no idea at the time, but apparently I was coming up with the GOP's legislative strategy. If they can't have their way then they don't want any stupid gov't cookies anyway!

[And they want to take away the cookies AND sandwiches and broccoli etc. from the rest of us!]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/15/baby-bargains-like-the-tea...

Comment by Grinning Cat on October 15, 2013 at 3:11pm

I do have some humor to pass along, about the current insanity in the U.S. Congress:

This Baby Bargains Like the Tea Party (video by CollegeHumor, via HuffPost. I'm not getting the embed to work.)

"OK, kiddo, eat your peas."

"I don't want my peas!"

"We agreed to, remember? I wanted you to eat peas and carrots, but we compromised on just peas."

"Either you throw out the peas or I burn the house down."

"Whoa! That's not a fair deal, sweetheart. You're saying either you get your way or nobody does?"

"Why are you being so unreasonable?"

"I'm not. What do you think?"

[brandishing lit match] "Trash the peas or watch this baby burn."

"OK, wait, whoa, whoa, this is your house too."

[curtains on fire] "This is your fire! You started this fire!"

"(God!) Little brat! Psycho!"

"I'm ready to negotiate when you are."

"We already did! We agreed on peas!"

"But this whole time I wanted ice cream!
Buh-bye credit cards!" [throws wallet into the fire]

"No! We need those to buy things! Please, just listen to Daddy."

"You're not my real daddy! You'll never be my real daddy!"
[steps on detonator, blows up house]

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 15, 2013 at 11:35am

Tom, I agree, the way of the future is individual entrepreneurial endeavor. People are so used to "getting a job" many don't think of creating a job.

Coming home from Laura's home, I asked Larry, her husband, what attracted him to her. He said he had submitted a bid for a project that Laura had requested of a group of businesses. She chose another company, made an appointment with Larry, the owner of his company, to tell him his support staff did not relay messages she sent to him, did not give her accurate information and was unprofessional in her demeanor and that is why she didn't choose his company, the superior product. At the time she had a very good job with security and benefits. Larry thought about her feedback and later called her to join his firm. She said she would if she could generate her salary. They both benefitted! He was so impressed with her spirit and skills, he fell in love with her and they married. As it turned out, they have the best marriage I have ever seen, totally equal partners confronting challenges shoulder to shoulder. They even have been able to retain the romantic aspect of their relationship, even while working day and night together.  

The way government is set up, the small business owner has challenges impeding progress for them for the benefit of big business. Agri-business replaces family farms, for example. Big box stores replace small businesses. I know the economic reasons for these large corporations and also realize the price we pay by converting to such corporate ownership. The profits generated by big farms and businesses leave the community to line the pockets of big business and big government. A bought government does not have incentive to create a level playing field. 

As to humor, I have none. This is serious business we discuss, and I have no interest in joking. 

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on October 15, 2013 at 4:07am

k hughes: ...if these damned corporations would pay a living wage wouldn't we all be better off?

Joan: It is time for critical thinking, rational action, ....

Yes and yes, but if we are going to be better off, we need a goal.

Bear with me for a few lines; I might pleasantly surprise you.

In the billions of years since our big and strong pond scum ancestors ate the smaller and weaker among them, the surviving smaller and weaker gradually devised a means to discourage that kind of feeding behavior. It has a name; here in the USofA we hear it called political democracy. It's more truthfully a blend of oligarchy (rule by a few) and plutocracy (rule by the wealthy) so we have further to go.

Let's leave the political arena and enter the economic arena. According to a book published in 2007, more than 11,000 businesses in America are owned and operated by their employees. They keep the surplus value they create; it doesn't go to the gambling addicts who infest Wall Street and similar places. They can hire people who have the managerial skills their companies need.

If working folk want a living wage, we need some critical thinking, some rational action, and occasionally some strong language.

Will someone please add some humor to the above?

 
 
 

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