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Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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An Atheist / Antitheist Manifesto, by Brian Dalton

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller on Saturday. 8 Replies

The original title of the following video was: "The Way of the Mister: Atheist Fundamentalist," but having watched it twice, I can't escape the feeling that my moniker fits as well and perhaps a bit better.  In 20 minutes and change, Brian Dalton…Continue

Tags: fundamentalist, manifesto, antitheist, atheist, MrDeity

Hillary Clinton has Connections to The Family Fellowship

Started by sk8eycat. Last reply by sk8eycat May 18. 6 Replies

WOULD YOU BUY A USED BUYBULL FROM THIS WOMAN?From Mother Jones...2007…Continue

The Pitchforks Are Coming… For Us Plutocrats (Nick Hanauer - Politico.com)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller May 10. 2 Replies

Memo: From Nick Hanauer To: My Fellow ZillionairesYou probably don’t know me, but like you I am one of those .01%ers, a proud and unapologetic capitalist. I have founded, co-founded and funded more than 30 companies across a range of industries—from…Continue

Tags: pitchforks, 1%, capitalism, plutocrat, Jeff Bezos

HOW A PIONEER OF BRANDING INVENTED CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISM

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by tom sarbeck May 9. 10 Replies

Religion Dispatch…Continue

Tags: marketing, Fundamentalism

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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 28, 2015 at 1:10pm

Why Evolution Is True:

The first U.S. penny touts science, not God

"The interesting part is the motto on the coin: "Liberty Parent of Science & Industry". Now we all know that the "In God We Trust" motto is a relatively recent innovation, but I was surprised to find (although I shouldn't have been) that the founders rated science as one of the boons of liberty. And nary a mention of the creator. Just another little nail in the coffin of 'America founded as a Christian nation.'" 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 26, 2015 at 5:11pm

Bertold, A must read. Michael Moore for president.

The underlying principles of our government as taught to our kids, remain so far from the truth, I kind of choke when I read the documents. 

An early rendition of The Constitution, a living document, defined people to be citizens if they were white, male and landowners. 

Can we live in a government that lied?

Tom wrote, "The "Free Market" label serves a purpose: it conceals the truth that from America's earliest years markets have been subsidized by taxpayers?"

Were we ever a nation of a government protecting the rights of people? Certainly not now. Government for the corporation, by and for the corporation does not define the kind of government in which I want to give my allegiance. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on March 26, 2015 at 4:44pm

I like a lot of Michael Moore's ideas.  He's a Catholic, but one interesting thing he said is "We will not back theocracies."

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 26, 2015 at 4:37pm

Loren, doesn't it feel like living on a roller coaster. We go along, enjoying the ride, watching the scenery, paying no particular attention to whether the nuts and bolts of the coaster work properly. All is cool, we feel so in charge of our lives, not a care in the world and that lovely climb to the top! One can see forever from there. 

Then whosh! fully engaged, eyes wide open, wind flashing past our ears, our mouths and noses unable to take in air and all we can do is scream. 

Well my grandmothers were at the same place on their roller coaster as we are right now. 

Who will be authors of our stories? Who will go crazy and who will commit suicide? Who will be prepared and ready for a rough ride? Who will come through it a little wiser and stronger and grateful to be alive? 

We live in interesting times. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 26, 2015 at 4:30pm

Tom, insightful bit of research!
"School histories have a different purpose: to make kids proud of America, willing to pay taxes and die in wars."

I guess that is where grandmothers and grandfathers come in. We can remember. Our memories, filled with facts of frauds, can tell different stories than our children's textbooks. 

I love the idea behind USA. It never lived to its rhetoric. I wonder, can we small band of people love the idea enough to live it and enjoy it and participate in whatever ways we can attempt to bring our country to its height.
As for myself, I intend be honest, steadfast, grateful for all that I have and especially all those people in my life, and grateful for those things for which I worked. 

Comment by Grinning Cat on March 26, 2015 at 4:29pm

This idea of Michael Moore's, in particular, bears repeating!

"If there is a call for war, and if we are to invade another nation, I will declare as commander in chief that the first to be sent into combat must be the conscripted adult offspring of all members of Congress, the president and the president’s cabinet (and then, in order, the children of the CEOs of the Fortune 500, all military contractors and the top media executives). This should reduce the number of wars considerably."

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 26, 2015 at 4:08pm
Comment by tom sarbeck on March 13, 2015 at 6:33am

If you do not know of the subsidies (taxpayer money) the government gives to businesses, do not read what follows. I don't want to wreck your innocence.

The "Free Market" label serves a purpose: it conceals the truth that from America's earliest years markets have been subsidized by taxpayers.

The first subsidy was the Revolution itself. Its costs paid by taxpayers, those in the business of selling land benefited.

Before the Revolution England had held the western lands (the Appalachians) for the Indians who lived there. With England out of the picture, the lands became available for development.

The Yazoo Land Fraud was next. The Wikipedia article doesn't tell of the years-long battle by a few members of Congress (the Tertium Quid) to prevent the costs being passed to taxpayers.

America's "free enterprise" system has always been, and it remains, a subsidy enterprise system. Today, the 99% subsidize the 1%.

I found parts of the story in histories of Congress: Asher Hinds' Precedents of the House of Representatives and Galloway's history of Congress. School histories have a different purpose: to make kids proud of America, willing to pay taxes and die in wars.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 12, 2015 at 10:40pm

Why Economists Cling to Discredited Ideas

"Free-market theory may be at odds with reality, but it fits the needs of the rich and the powerful.

"Despite the practical failures of free-market economics, too many mainstream economists have continued to embrace simplistic ideas about how the economy works. Such ideas are often rooted more in ideology than in evidence. These beliefs and the policies that follow led directly to the 2008 financial crisis and the Great Recession. They also centrally contributed to the nation’s subpar performance beginning in the late 1970s, and to our widening inequality. They continue to endanger America’s economic health."

"Science is universally true. The premise of economics as science was a great cover for conservative ideology. But one-size-fits-all economics, which best describes economic advice over the past 30 years, is a practical failure. Anti-government economics failed, pure and simple.

"Only a little seems to be changing. Targeting absurdly low inflation rates is still alive. One wonders whether regulation of finance will ever be adequate. The pressure for globalization is over-simplified, where one-size-fits-all policies are particularly damaging. We need economists who revise their theories based on evidence, but there is little room for reformers—few prestigious universities make space for heterodox thinking.

"It is hard to be optimistic about economics. Being an economist has become a career, though not an intellectual profession. Money talks loudly in their academic hallways, and a small-government philosophy still rules the nation, despite the calamities that began in 2008."

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 12, 2015 at 12:55pm

The Letter: Top 5 Similarities of GOP and Iran Hard Liners

"And, of course, Obama is right that the right wing of the Republican Party has things in common with hard liners in Iran."

 
 
 

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