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Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Atheists’ self-defeating superiority: Why joining forces with religion is best for non-believers

Started by Bertold Brautigan on Tuesday. 0 Replies

Steve Newmann's written the above titled article in Slate with the…Continue

There Is No Republican Middle

Started by Bertold Brautigan Mar 20. 0 Replies

In his Esquire politics blog, Charles Pierce today provided a nice bit of Santorum bashing along with an analysis of the unhinging of…Continue

The Most Dangerous Woman in America, Kshama Sawant

Started by Joan Denoo Mar 16. 0 Replies

Slowly, over the past 40-45 years, we have seen a levelling out of wage labor, a widening of the income gap, a reduction of the middle class, an increase of those living below the poverty line, and a takeover of government by moneyed interests. No…Continue

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Steve Shives, reviews "An Atheist Reads God's Not Dead" by Rice Broocks.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 13. 3 Replies

Steve Shives, in his usual robust manner, reviews "An Atheist Reads God's Not Dead" by Rice Broocks.Shive covers virtually all the claims of a believer attempting to replace confidence in science with holy scriptures and debunks fables that come to…Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on December 9, 2014 at 2:20pm

James, I will not hold my breath, either. 

Comment by James M. Martin on December 9, 2014 at 12:46pm

@Joan, as you know, Oppenheimer was referring to Shiva, who, in Hindu mythology, dances the earth into existence, then dances it into oblivion. But Hindu mythology is cyclical, and after the Kali Yuga (age of Kali, another destroyer) a New Age will be born. I wouldn't hold my breath.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 8, 2014 at 5:20pm

The Economic Collapse Warning Sign You Need To Know.

A Libertarian who sees the world through different lenses than I, gives a warning of economic collapse that I share.

Comment by Grinning Cat on December 7, 2014 at 9:10pm

On another note -- a "ha ha only serious" take on a lot of apparent U.S. foreign policy:

(My introduction to Key and Peele was their 2012 video "Obama's Meeting with Republicans".)

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 7, 2014 at 1:03pm

@James - NIetzsche did also warn us against blindly giving to science the same kind of worship we formerly gave to religion. He definitely harbored no thought that rationality in and of itself is sufficient to guide the species into an ideal future.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 7, 2014 at 2:31am

James, I wrote a response to your comment on Thursday: "Joan didn't Eisler write a book about sexual politics in pagan pasts."

Her first book, Chalice and the Blade powerfully stated the role of dominator cultures clutching control of the society, using religion as a tool to enforce their dogma. 

She has a personal history about her beginning her search to understand the Nazis phenomena: 

Chalice or the Blade Preview

She also wrote an insightful book, Sacred Pleasure: Sex, Myth, and the Politics of the Body--New Paths...

She writes of a paradigm shift of new ways of being in a relationship, the value to individuals and society. 

The Power of Partnership

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 7, 2014 at 2:16am

The New Prometheus, the scientist, rejecting god and submission to any domineering element in life. What was the famous quote? 

I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.

J. Robert Oppenheimer

Yes, destroyer of worlds is one possibility. Is it not also possible for the New Prometheus to be life-giving, nurturing, invigorating, enriching? I know the powerful will defeat the gentle in the physical sense of the word. Would not emotional strength have some influence on the outcome? Courage, stamina, sustaining, determination, endurance, energy, will, drive, vision, persistence count for something? 


Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jrobertop101189.html#ug8...

Comment by James M. Martin on December 6, 2014 at 9:01pm
Finally, Joan, consider also that Percy Bysshe, her husband, was throttled out of the family home by his irate father upon the patriarch's learning his son was an atheist. Some of that had to have influenced Mary.
Comment by James M. Martin on December 6, 2014 at 8:57pm

Not to forget, Joan, Ms. Well Stoned Crafty subtitled the book, "The New Prometheus." Now, I know this was with reference to Dr. Frankenstein himself. He represents to me, not God creating woman but a man of science playing God. He is Faust. He is Christopher Marlowe. When we throw off the shackles of dogma and follow science we become our own Gods. That was Nietzsche's point as well.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 4, 2014 at 5:08pm

Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley wrote Frankenstein, of a Dr. Frankenstenein who created a monster from body parts dug from graves. When the monster came to life, the good doctor hated his creation and spent the rest of his life attempting to destroy the ugly beast. 

This story is Shelley's metaphor for god creating woman, hating her and attempting to destroy her as some kind of a dreadful creature. 

God, created in the minds of man, exists as an instrument of hate and destruction! Biblical fables and myths reflect feelings of entitlement for a chosen people and the destruction of all humans who are different than their prescribed notions. They are willing and able to use whatever means necessary to gain those entitlements. 

That is what we observe today in the conflict between Israel over Palestine, between whites over blacks, between heterosexuals over homosexuals. People who believe they have superiority over other humans, who define people who are different by race, language, culture, gender, and class use whatever means necessary to achieve their ends. 

We see in the financial markets with the machinations of wealth and power, creating a widening gap between rich and poor. 

Religion, used to educate for hierarchical systems, employ unfair, unjust, immoral, unethical means to achieve their end. 

 
 
 

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