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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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If We Evolved from Monkeys, Why Are There Still Republicans?

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by Grinning Cat Feb 25. 3 Replies

Do politicians' beliefs about evolution matter? Reasonable people, whether they cotton to communism or the Constitutional Party or anything in between, ought to be alarmed at the fact that leading contenders for the Republican presidential…Continue

Tags: Evolution

Corporate profit takes over your entire world this month

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Feb 15. 1 Reply

Obama is pushing to Fast Track the TPP and TPIP, which means congress will vote to pass them with NO DEBATE or public scrutiny. Under the guise of protecting trade, they'll empower unrestrained corporate profit, with no regard for public good....…Continue

Tags: Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, Trans-Pacific Partnership

North Americanism - Republican 2016 strategy

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by sk8eycat Feb 13. 7 Replies

Are you ready for Cold War 2.0 and a fossil fuel free-for-all surge from Mexico to Canada? Michael Klare describes the Republican campaign strategy for "a nightmare of environmental degradation and global conflict."…Continue

Tags: Republican campaign, 2016 election, North Americanism

Which Is Better, Liberalism or Conservatism?

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by tom sarbeck Feb 10. 6 Replies

While grinding my morning axes, I ran across quite an old article on Alternet by Greta Christina, gatheist activist and…Continue

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Comment by Loren Miller 13 hours ago

The problem with Howard Zinn's words is that they collide head-on with the reality as described and accurately predicted by the movie Network.  The world has become a business, but instead of every citizen owning a share of stock, the various ownerships have been glommed up by the 1%, and they are loathe to relinquish their holdings.  This is further exacerbated by citizens who are disinterested in their citizenship.  They vote irregularly if they vote at all, and rather than keep informed in order to understand the state of their country and their place in it, they are distracted by the "wires and lights in a box" which Edward R. Murrow warned us about half a century ago.

We need an involved citizenry to solve this problem, but before we can even do that, we need to shake them out of their torpor and get them to care that there is a problem, even as Howard Beale tried in the above-mentioned film.  Problem is, Beale was killed for his efforts.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan 15 hours ago

The Rude Pundit's piece today is about Phil Robertson bringing Duck Dynasty wisdom to CPAC. It's not like we don't already know this, but he summed the situation up nicely.

The point here is not just to beat up on a rich man in redneck drag, a kind of cracker minstrel pushed out to dispense crazed backwoods wisdom. It's also to say that the crowd that embraced him (and right-wing websites were overjoyed with his speech) is never going to be won over by "logic" or "facts" or anything that we believe can be used to convince people. They are invested in a monolithic lie that some kind of Christian morality will make everything better.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 12, 2015 at 9:50pm

Howard Zinn's words ring as true today as in 1970. We need the citizens of the world to unite. Do you remember the Workers of the World Unite? I wonder if that group is still alive? Perhaps it time ... no, it is past time to breath life into the Workers of the World. Those who benefit by Laissez faire capitalism, call those who disagree with them "Communists" "Pinkos", "Commies", "Liberals", "Socialists", "Reds",  "Leftists", "Nazis" and "Fascists".

Put any label you want to on people who work hard, pay their taxes, treat others fairly, pay attention to what happens when wealth is concentrated at the top one %. I, proudly, claim to be a worthy citizen of the w orld with concerns for all workers who support families and participate in communities as good members of society.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 12, 2015 at 7:36pm
Comment by Plinius on January 30, 2015 at 9:24am

Would be as boring as the hours I spent in my parents' fundie protestant chuch. The one thing I learnt there was telling myself stories, writing poetry etc. while looking like someone who enjoys the sermon...

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 30, 2015 at 8:56am

From Valerie Tarico - 

10 Reasons Popular Versions of Christian Heaven Would be Hell

Why This Heaven Would Be Hellish

To many people the biblical description alone is enough to make Heaven sound unappealing, especially if you then add the company of noxious but professing public figures like Pat Robertson, Mel Gibson, Sarah Palin, Ken Ham, or Anita Bryant. (Why does God have such a bad marketing department?) But the problem isn’t just bad company. The closer you look, the more the Bible’s version of paradise seems like another version of eternal torture. Let me spell it out.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 30, 2015 at 7:07am

Blasphemy has something in common with sodomy - neither should be considered a crime, assuming no non-willing participation is involved.

Comment by Grinning Cat on January 30, 2015 at 1:39am

Heard on BBC World Service: the International Humanist and Ethical Union is campaigning to abolish blasphemy laws, which exist in about a quarter of the world's countries. IHEU "says that, in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attacks in France, the time is right for countries to abolish laws that protect religious sensibilities. But blasphemy laws nevertheless remain popular in many parts of the world."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31047401

Comment by Grinning Cat on January 28, 2015 at 1:35am

p.s.: The Guardian article about Alexis Tsipras refusing a religious swearing-in also quoted a party activist who's a devout Orthodox Christian, who said that the new prime minister's 'choice of a secular oath was, paradoxically, an act of respect for the church and its integrity. Rather than appropriating religious rituals for political ends, as previous leaders had done, he was "ac­knowl­edging the sanctity of church services and behaving with respect to all of us (practising Christians)... Instead of him taking a false oath, we will offer him our sincere prayers."'

Comment by Grinning Cat on January 28, 2015 at 1:24am

In a dramatic break with tradition, Greece's new prime minister took a civil rather than religious oath of office.

From The Guardian: "Here’s the moment that Greek radical leftist party SYRIZA leader Alexis Tsipras signed the official protocols after being sworn in (using a secular oath) by president Karolos Papoulias."

From The Economist:

GREECE'S new prime minister, Alexis Tsipras, made history within hours of his victory by informing the Archbishop of Athens, very politely, that clerical services would not be required for his swearing-in ceremony. An avowed atheist who has nonetheless made a point of dealing courteously with senior clergy, Mr Tsipras lost no time in making known that his oath of office would be a secular procedure. It was also explained that when the whole cabinet was sworn in, a more junior cleric (but not the archbishop) would be invited to assist those who wished to take a religious oath.

It's hard to overstate what a rupture this marks with the ceremonial culture of Greece. For as long as anybody can remember, every senior office-holder, from socialists to right-wing dictators, has assumed the post with a ritual involving Bibles, crosses and often holy water, sprinkled about with a sprig of basil.

 
 
 

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