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New Atheists

Atheists who are fed up religion and the idea of god. Its time we all work together and abolish religion and the idea of god through logic and reason. As Michael Bakunin Stated :"If god really existed it would be necessary to abolish him." 

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What is new atheism?

New Atheism is the name given to the ideas promoted by a collection of 21st-century atheist writers who have advocated the view that "religion should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument wherever its influence arises."

The term is commonly associated with individuals such as Richard DawkinsDaniel DennettSam Harris, and Christopher Hitchens(together called "the Four Horsemen of New Atheism" in a 2007 debate they held on their criticisms of religion, a name that has stuck) and Victor J. Stenger. Several best-selling books by these authors, published between 2004 and 2007, form the basis for much of the discussion of New Atheism.

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Theists tell us that we should leave them alone to believe what ever they want.

Started by Irrelevant People. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jan 22. 5 Replies

 As a new atheist religion must not be tolerated and should be abolished with the idea of a god. We care about the truth and since reality is awesome.The religionists claim that religion gives…Continue

Atheism, to me, means:

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 21, 2013. 24 Replies

Thank you for your invitation to join your group.I spent the first years of atheism learning what it wasn't and then learning what it is. This is an oversimplification of my thinking, but it kind of…Continue

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Comment by Mordekhai ben-Yosef on September 13, 2012 at 7:21pm

What I will always wonder about is how long the Saudis and the Bushes will go along with the charade that each family is repelled socially and religiously by the other.

The Saudis as devout Muslims are required to loathe infidel dogs and wealthy WASPS regard everyone else as wogs. Truly, a testament to the power of money to make even stranger bedfellows than politics. Oy!

Comment by James M. Martin on September 13, 2012 at 7:15pm

I believe 9/11 was a bunch of disgruntled Saudi youth recruited by the "Old Man of the Mountain" to slaughter Christians, Jews, and Muslims in the Twin Towers.  However, I will always find it curious that all the bin Laden relatives were flown out on planes when all other flights had been grounded, as were members of the House of Saud.  The latter have been close friends of the Bush Family for generations.

Comment by Mordekhai ben-Yosef on September 13, 2012 at 6:47pm

Gentlemen?

I appreciate the welcome. One small thing. The diminutives of my Hebrew name "Mordekhai" are "Motkha" which is hard for many Anglophones to say, or "Motti". "Mord" sounds to me too much like Latin-derived "death".

I haven't used my Hebrew name in years. I like it! ;-)

Comment by Mordekhai ben-Yosef on September 13, 2012 at 6:42pm

@ J. Martin:

Nearly all the American "aristocracy" realized that an interruption of the flow of profits from Europe was a worse catastrophe than finding ways to trade with the enemy in wartime. Ever drunk a Fanta?

Comment by Richard Goscicki on September 13, 2012 at 6:36pm

Thanks, James.  I've always considered you a good friend.  We see eye to eye so often.

What's your view on 9/11?  I'm not a conspiracy theory type, but for the hellame I can't figure out how Building #7 went down two blocks away. 

And how did the towers fall so fast?  faster than dropping a coin off the roof.  Less than 11 seconds.  And the fukkin' Florida election?  I get mad just thinking about it.  How could this imbecile get elected twice?

 

Comment by James M. Martin on September 13, 2012 at 6:19pm

I assure Mord knows whereof he speaketh.  If you have read one of the many "Bush Dynasty" books you know why George W. was the way he was, how he got there, partly by currying the favor of the religious right.  But the books show just how true it is that W's pedigree is from plutocratic thievery (robber barons).  I donno about the traitors part. Chumminess with the House of Saud?  What's traitorous about that?

Comment by James M. Martin on September 13, 2012 at 6:14pm

I just totally agree with Richard re: John Hagee.  He HAS to be the most repulsive creature to ever, EVER crawl out from under a rock.  I wish I had taped the time John McCain appeared on a raised platform for a photo op with Hagee, whose other elbow rubbed Tex. Senator John Cornyn.  Cornyn is Mr. Opportunist in person.  He got elected to the Texas Supreme Court by insurance company money and he left the law to politic for senate, again on Big Money.  While in D.C. he has lined his pockets so heavily it is amazing he move around with all that coinage.  After McCain realized who Hagee really was (I think his own daughter told him Hagee is to homophobia what Freud was to psychoanalysis and McCain at least has a conscience), McCain threw Hagee under the bus.  Not that shithead John Cornyn: he knew that Hagee's mega-church would be important in any reelection bid.  So he panders to this base element.  What I want to know is, when is the Southern Poverty Law Center going to put Hagee's church on its hate list?

Comment by James M. Martin on September 13, 2012 at 6:08pm

@ Richard A cena eh?  I am headed for Isla Mujeres shortly and miss my meals in Mexico.  I will try to get back to the capital next year, if only passing through.  The City is a gourmet paradise: on my previous 10-day trip, I ate at a Pakistani restaurant that had the best tandori chicken I've eaten.  Another place had authentic Norteno style birria de chivo.  Like the guy on TV, "I'm here for the food."

Comment by Mordekhai ben-Yosef on September 13, 2012 at 5:30pm

There's a special kick for me in seeing Spanish-speaking atheists. Cristianismo has such deep roots in the culture that you forget that thousands of Jews and freethinkers also use it as their mother tongue.

When atheism makes serious inroads in Ibero-America we will have a vast reservoir of people declaring that they, too, will not be told what to think, say, or do on account of some celestial devil. And high time, too!

Comment by Richard Goscicki on September 13, 2012 at 5:22pm

Mord, wonderful.  Good for you.  Languages are part of the good life.  I feel great just ordering la cena in a Mexican reastaurant.

 

 

 

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