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Comment by Aiden on February 18, 2010 at 1:18pm
The Dunning–Kruger effect:

A cognitive bias in which "people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it".
Comment by Aiden on February 18, 2010 at 12:30pm
Our Founders Were NOT Fundamentalists

This article over at HumanistNetworkNews.org goes over the answers to the common claims of the "religious right". A handy resource.
Comment by Sigmund on February 4, 2010 at 4:11pm
you might be interested in my (somewhat propagandistic - certainly not 'objective') 'atheist pamphlet' at atheistprinciples.tripod.com, written with the intention of giving it to any religious campaigners that try to convert me...
comments would be appreciated
Comment by Jason Spicer on January 29, 2010 at 3:39pm
Seems like you used kid gloves, actually.
Comment by Howard S. Dunn on January 21, 2010 at 4:51pm
The interesting thing about the Catholics - they include a ton of stuff that isn't even in their book.

Half the stations of the cross are not there.

vials of Elvis' tears ... wait - whaaa? I hope the put them up on eBay - I'm gonna WIN that auction - count on it!
Comment by D.O.S on January 21, 2010 at 11:50am
"What about The Shroud of Turin argument? I don't understand what Christians think it is proof of. Please educate me my atheist brothers and sisters."
Black Sectarian Thought

Shroud is proof of only one thing: disdain for science. Three separate labs have carbon dated to over a 1000 years after Christ supossedly lived and died. It's a fake and anyone with a brain who also happens to also be literate should realize it by now.
Comment by Double Standards??? on January 19, 2010 at 6:34pm
What about The Shroud of Turin argument? I don't understand what Christians think it is proof of. Please educate me my atheist brothers and sisters.
Comment by Double Standards??? on January 19, 2010 at 5:03pm
My great uncle was with Patton's 3rd Armored in WWII. Years ago (before his passing) he told me that while the catholic boys were busy with their rosary beads the atheists were busy shooting back.

Great story Bill. Thanks for sharing. :)
Comment by Andrew on January 19, 2010 at 3:54pm
I recently used a line of argumentation that was basically inspired by what Sam Harris said at the La Ciudad debate. My experience in taking on those who defend the faith is that we can win any argument if we do the following:

1. Not have a problem with the deist god (because it doesn't matter if that god exists or not). This means that we don't have to waste time "proving the nonexistence of God in the universe."

2. Make it clear that Christianity rests solely on whether the Gospel accounts of miracles attributed to Jesus are true, and that's all we have to deal with in order to reject Christianity.

3. Make mention about how the earliest Gospels were written DECADES after Jesus, that we don't have original manuscripts, only copies of copies of copies, and that there are plenty of errors both in the manuscripts and in the current Gospels.

4. Mention that miracles have been reported throughout history (cite examples of current ones and past ones from people outside of Christianity).

5. Given points 3 and 4, there are bad reasons to believe the Gospels at face value. Since we (the Christian and the atheist) don't think miracles from non-Christians (no matter how recent) are worth a second thought, how much worse is it to believe that the miracles in the Gospels (which are ancient, written decades after Jesus, and we only have copies of copies of descrepant manuscripts)?

When the apologists or Christians start resorting to fallacies, you win. They usually resort to: "Whenever I read what you atheists say, my faith increases ..."

A good response is from Dan Barker. "I take that as a compliment. You're essentially saying since all the evidence for your religion is missing, you've had to fill in the gaps with MORE FAITH."
Comment by Howard S. Dunn on January 19, 2010 at 2:01pm
Yeah - one would think that would be a more reliable way to save your ass.
 

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