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Comment by Chris G on January 14, 2010 at 1:28pm

I usually don't waste my time arguing with theologists, but I'll check out what people have to say.

Comment by Howard S. Dunn on January 13, 2010 at 2:07pm

My Grandfather used to say he was not stubborn, just tenacious. No way to change his mind ...

He also used to say - "10,000 Swedes hid in the weeds - chased by one Norwegian." (ah, what a kidder. He married a Swede after all ...)

Comment by Howard S. Dunn on January 12, 2010 at 11:58pm

Yeah Fred - language barrier aside - I am intrigued by your research and approach. I am curious though - my Grandmother was Swedish and Grandfather was Norwegian - they were both stubborn - but you are sometimes as 'passionate' as my father's southern European side. What's up with that? :^)

Comment by James Turkia on January 11, 2010 at 10:39pm

Great sources posted in this group. Good job.

Comment by Howard S. Dunn on January 11, 2010 at 12:25pm

Bill - I was raised Catholic and, while I can trace my skepticism all the way back to the first grade - I was also always engaged by the Big Questions and they, at least, provided a kind of 'forum' (padded cell?) for this interest to be addressed (funneled)

Nevertheless, I went through a process that got me here in my thinking. And, while I do not believe certain types of fundies can be 'saved' - my 75 year old Dad is beginning to turn the corner... (to be continued)

Comment by Ben on January 11, 2010 at 10:46am

And religious arguments are nothing like good arguments. ba dum bum ching!

Comment by Prog Rock Girl on January 11, 2010 at 10:44am

Nothing like a good argument--religious or not.

Comment by Howard S. Dunn on January 11, 2010 at 10:36am

Thanks for the invite Nerd. But now I'm forced to wonder - was I invited because you believe I might offer valuable insight into how to win an argument, or because you think I need to taught how? :^)

Actually, I am very pleased to discover that persuasive argument is being discussed as well as logical argument. In fact, logos can, at times, be the least persuasive way to bring someone to a logical conclusion.

Comment by Andrew on January 11, 2010 at 10:24am

I find that a variation of Sam Harris's short reply to Rabbi Schmuley Boteach is probably the best way to refute Christianity. Seen here.

Basically, we don't have to prove the absence of god; all we have to do in order to reject Christianity is show that there are bad reasons to take the Gospel at face value.

Comment by Sam Kennedy on November 3, 2009 at 7:45am

I really like the freethoughtpedia, thanks for the link!

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