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Started by MC Pickard. Last reply by Mike Mitchell Apr 14.
Started by jenny. Last reply by Linda Currington Apr 21, 2012.
Started by gerard26 Apr 1, 2011.
Linda, you're welcome. I realize everyone has their opinions on everything in existence and since Andrew gave his, I thought I should put in mine. Yes, some of her political ideas were nearly incomprensible and I can see where both sides of american politics would take her in, but I can set that aside since I LOVE a well written novel. A real story. And one that I can relate to. I've read all her books twice now which is a daunting task. As for Atlas Shrugged, there is a movie out now based on the book. I've not watched it yet since it's only part 1 of 3. At least the movie creators are giving the book the treatment it deserves. Hence the length. Anyway, I need to look into this Freethought Festival on the 27th. You know where it's taking place?
Sorry. Linda C. I was aiming this at you. I came here right out of an email and didn't look.
I gotta chip in here. For the one asking about Ayn Rand. Read Fountainhead. 1st. Tell me if it don't inspire you to do your own thing against all that say it ain't shit. When ya get through that, well, if you liked that, try Atlas Shrugged. Granted Ayn wrote HUGE novels. Or One Huge novel. It's very easy to set aside what the modern day republicans claim as their own and the democrats too. Forget all that and read The Fountainhead as just a novel.
I think she wrote some awesome fiction. Screw all the political shit. Really. Ignore all that's been said here to put you off to her. No offence to those who have poopoo'ed her here. We Freethinkers are famous for being Freethinkers who take the BEST of all and incorporate into our own Lifestructure. You'll see. Fountainhead 1st. If'n ya don't like it and it offends you, don't bother with other books by Ayn Rand. This was a woman who could, in the few novel she wrote, spin an amazing tale. The detail is astounding. The visuals. The thoughts. The mindsets of all characters. I only WISH I could write something as stupendous as Atlas Shrugged. Total mindfucker of a novel. Ultimately, she wanted to inspire people. To do what comes Natural to your essence as a human primate.
ok, nuf of me...
Ayn Rand was the author of several monotonous fiction novels, and the proponent of a socio-economic worldview that I can charitably describe as twisted. She was also an atheist. That's the only good thing I can say about her, and it's quite telling that that's the aspect of her personality that many of her most ardent followers seem to downplay or overlook.
Recommended link: http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/03/three-objections-to-objectiv...
Me and my finace are in Fond du Lac.
Is anybody in the group in the Appleton/Valley area?
I'm more or less out by accident. When I was 16 my very religious Grandma pulled me aside and said "We love you, you are always welcome here, anytime, but feel free to NOT come by on Christmas eve." Which was my family's big day for celebrating. I felt slightly flabbergasted and rejected, then I thought about it for about 5 seconds and was SO happy. This wasn't even necessarily about religion, just that I was a bit of an anarchist, or something, a punker, and basically getting a free pass NOT to participate so I didn't have to feel uncomfortable and make everyone else uncomfortable, it was the best Christmas present ever!
When I went to college I ended up hosting Anti-Christmas parties for whoever wasn't doing anything else on the 24 & 25th so I got a really fun & random mix of kids who either didn't want to bother to go home because they didn't celebrate, or who were unwelcome at home for whatever reason, so: secular kids, Jews, Hindus, gay kids, cartoon satanists, pagans, kids too broke to go fly home, loads of people I didn't even know before the holiday who heard in one way or another about my "Anti-Christmas parties", it was super fun. One time a kid I never even met made flyers!
Then years later my daughter was born and I wrecked my perfect record of 20 Christ-free Christmases with an ill advised trip to my in-laws (at the time). I had thought "Oh, maybe I'm being a bit of an extremist" or some such nonsense, but nope. I look forward to my next old-fashioned Saturnalia now more than ever. :)
My little girl is great at interrupting people who say "The reason for the season" with "is the TILT of the EARTH!" so precious. I didn't teach her that either! She picked it up by accident. She's slightly militant. heh heh heh
I'm out to both my family and my husband's, but it's like they can't hear me. I usually try to refer to it casually lest I cause I major incident, but it doesn't seem to stop anyone from suggesting "group" prayers at mealtime. And yes, we also have to do the "Jesus is the reason for the season!" thing. I know better, of course, but in a roomful of Christians the last thing you want to say is "pagan tradition".
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