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Pet foods as vegan/vegetarian?

Started by Lindzee. Last reply by Lindzee Mar 2. 4 Replies

omega-3 in vegan diets

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Raw diets

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Feelings of plants

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New here, looking for tofu recipies

Started by diane sholly. Last reply by Humble Pie Jan 9, 2013. 3 Replies

Abortion

Started by Chris Z. Last reply by VeganAquarianAtheist Dec 31, 2012. 16 Replies

New here, glad to find this group!

Started by Justin Lee. Last reply by Sentient Biped Aug 8, 2012. 2 Replies

Shopping Vegan in West London

Started by Mulhid Murtad. Last reply by Phil Apr 25, 2012. 1 Reply

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Comment by sacha on November 26, 2009 at 2:28pm
Comment by sacha on November 26, 2009 at 12:56pm
46 million turkeys killed in US for today's celebrations alone. Happy thanksgiving. Not so happy for the turkeys.
Comment by Nikolai Torp Dragnes on November 14, 2009 at 12:08am
51% of all global warming gases are due to meat factories. There is in other words no possibility to stop global warming if meat consumption, dairy consumption, egg consumption and farm fish consumption is reduced greatly or eliminated. Even if all fossile fuel use would stop before 2050, which is very unlikely, there would still be a 50 increase in emissions due to the animal industries.
Comment by K on October 30, 2009 at 2:37pm
Yep, I agree with Sacha and Daniel. Omnivore and ovo lacto veg are not synonymous.. Omni's eat dead creatures; ovo- lacto, vegetarian and vegan mean no animal died to provide sustenance.
Comment by sacha on October 30, 2009 at 1:37pm
Sorry Adriana,

An ovo-lacto vegetarian is not an omnivore.
Comment by Sentient Biped on October 30, 2009 at 12:58pm
oops, omni edfinition was in the comment below.
Comment by Sentient Biped on October 30, 2009 at 12:57pm
Semantics, semantics! Over at least the past 30 years (while I've been reading about it), someone who eats dairy and is otherwise vegetarian, the consensus is that they are ovo-lacto vegetarian. Someone who eats only plant-based diet is a Vegan. Wikipedia definitition states "Vegetarianism is the practice of following a diet based on plant-based foods including fruits, vegetables, cereal grains, nuts, and seeds, with or without dairy products and eggs". On the other hand, omnivory is defined as "Omnivores (from Latin: omne all, everything; vorare to devour) are species that eat both plants and animals as their primary food source. "

I think that claiming that an ovolacto vegetarian is an omnivore, in come cases, is omnivorian propaganda designed to discredit, with the idea that "You are a hypocrite if you claim to be vegetarian but you eat dairy".

If Im not mistaken (I may well be), doesnt omni refer to 'everything'? How can someone be an omnivore if they excude 90% of what's in the grocery store, due to those products containing meat or meat derivatives (I'm making up the 90% number but I feels like it).

I get tired of the semantic discussions, but again, an omnivore includes meat in their diet. This is about communication, not religion. We know the terms that we use, and redefining them based on convenience for some groups is not helpful. A vegetarian does not include meat in their diet. It may be more accurate to state ovo-lacto vegetarian, but both dictionary and accepted use is what we have been using. A vegan excludes all animal products from their diet.
Comment by Chris Z on October 27, 2009 at 1:02pm
I suppose yogurt is not yogurt (or the slightest bit stable and safe for consumption) without these little guys.
Comment by Chris Z on October 27, 2009 at 1:00pm
Does anyone know of a yogurt which does not contain probiotics? I understand that all food has some biotic content, but is there a yogurt which doesn't artificially produce (culture) these things? Thanks for your thoughts, comments, or ideas.
Comment by Simon JM on October 18, 2009 at 12:44am
Start a thread Ralph I've already started a new one myslef.
 

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