Vegetarian/Vegan Atheists


Vegetarian/Vegan Atheists

This group is here to provide a sense of community for nontheist vegetarians and vegans.

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Pet foods as vegan/vegetarian?

Started by Lindzee. Last reply by Lindzee Mar 2. 4 Replies

omega-3 in vegan diets

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Raw diets

Started by Luara May 9, 2013. 0 Replies

Feelings of plants

Started by Ege Çınar Arcan. Last reply by Peter N Jan 26, 2013. 10 Replies

New here, looking for tofu recipies

Started by diane sholly. Last reply by Humble Pie Jan 9, 2013. 3 Replies


Started by Chris Z. Last reply by VeganAquarianAtheist Dec 31, 2012. 16 Replies

New here, glad to find this group!

Started by Justin Lee. Last reply by Sentient Biped Aug 8, 2012. 2 Replies

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Comment by Sentient Biped on April 15, 2011 at 10:14pm

"I don't understand why the vegan meals that I make never look like the ones in the recipe.  What am I doing wrong"  "Maybe you need to put meat in them like they do in VegNews".


Just strange.  It's not hard to take photos of actual food.  You are right, Stephen, it does play into the hands of critics who just need an excuse to point out the hypocracy of a vegetarian magazine that uses nonvegetarian meals in its photos.


I hope "Taliban Times" isn't using photo stock of pork meals and calling it mutton, in their recipe section.  Just kidding about that.

Comment by Sentient Biped on April 15, 2011 at 9:36pm

VEg-gate?  VegNews has been using stock photos of nonvegan foods and doctoring them to look vegan.  Some people are pretty upset.  Is it like discovering, too late, that the "vegan fried rice" that you ate actually contained chicken stock?  I imagine that for people who avoid vegan sausages that look too much like the "real deal", VegNews is some explaining to do.

Comment by Chris Z on March 4, 2011 at 11:30pm
Yeah, I've never heard of anything like this. It does sound fishy. If it's true, I don't blame the person for eating meat. Perhaps now that we can grow muscle tissue in a petree-dish, they should eat that instead (if such could be afforded). This way an animal doesn't need to lose it's life. It does sound fishy.
Comment by Pamela on March 4, 2011 at 5:31pm


Sounds fishy to me.  Who the hell can't eat beans and vegetables??  Maybe they are lactose intolerant (most adult humans are).  The idea of plant food being dangerous is absurd in the extreme.  Our ancestors have always gotten most of their calories from plants... meat was a small part of the human diet until recently (in most areas of the world).

Comment by Chris Z on March 4, 2011 at 3:49pm
I just now spoke with a friend who says that her husband, husband's father, and they suspect her son cannot "eat milk, beans, pasta, bread, large amounts of veggies, and he is not the only one!" She went on to say, "there is a huge number of people on antacid meds because they eat like you eat [I'm a lacto-ovo-vegetarian]!," and "The food ferments in your stomach and it erodes the lining of your esophagus and intestines."

Up until now, I have never heard of such cases. I thought there were no documented cases of this.

Do any of you know if this condition is really true?
Comment by Dogly on February 23, 2011 at 9:29am
Sorry friends. I didn't mean to use huge font.  from the Supreme and computer illiterate Dogly.
Comment by Dogly on February 23, 2011 at 9:26am

K, thanks for the info.  I didn't know her special day was proclaimed 2 decades ago.  She does promote veganism - not vegetarianism.  I guess her followers are scattered unevenly across the globe.  They have a booth at all large vegan conferences, at State Fairs, at any venue they can cover.  They are very active in central Florida.  And, what IS a thread?  What IS it called when one starts a new topic of discussion? Thanks


Comment by Sentient Biped on February 22, 2011 at 9:18pm
I think anyone that calls themselves "supreme" or "master" or "grand poobah of the high and mighty" can't be taken seriously. In fact it's really laughable. (signed, supreme high and mighty hoity toity sentient biped)
Comment by K on February 22, 2011 at 8:59pm


You didn't start a thread, Dogly....;o)


And I think it might be exaggerating a bit to say "Hundreds of thousands" of people take her seriously.  Maybe in Taiwan, or Vietnam,  but not around here.

 I've eaten at The Loving Hut, and the only people watching her on the giant screen TV are little kids, and although there is plenty of literature, I see it left on tables and tossed into the trash can.  People really don't seem to care, and I haven't EVER seen anything about her, literature or channel, in any place but her restaurants.


  The real faces associated with veganism in the eyes of most folks right now are Bill Clinton, Alicia Silverstone, Brandy, Ellen, Dennis Kucinich, and Jason Mraz.

Hell, even Mike Tyson has gone vegan!  Unless you actually visit her restaurant, how would you know who she is? (At least here in Metro Atlanta)

 And I think she claims to be vegetarian, not her use of wool, silk, coral, and pearls, while they may offend vegan sensibilities, are in keeping with her dietary choice/label.


The Feb 22 thing is almost 2 decades old, I understand it, the Supreme High blah de blah was a one time thing, although she carries on celebrating each year.

Comment by Dogly on February 22, 2011 at 11:01am

Hi Lyra,

I wondered whether or not my questions had just shut down this thread.  Yes, apparently hundreds of thousands of people around the world take this woman very seriously.  She has a 24 hour TV channel and hundreds of vegan restaurants.

Here is a tweet from them:

"Feb22 was proclaimed Supreme Master Ching Hai Day by 6 US governors. Join us Tues for special programs dedicated to Supreme Master Ching Hai"

So, folks, may I be the first to wish you a Happy Supreme Master Ching Hai DAY!!

Is one of these 6 proclaiming governors in charge of YOUR state?

She worries me. By placing her literature everywhere vegans gather to graze, her followers leave the impression that she is the "face" of the vegan movement.  Her hypocrisy in using animal products in her fashion and jewelry designs simply galls me.


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