The Childless and Godless

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Comment by Susan Stanko on Tuesday

Just making sure you are consistent.

Comment by TNT666 on Tuesday

Kosak... the illusion that "in nature" all females live but to reproduce is an self delusion. There are many species where all females do not breed constantly, or at all, they play other social roles. Females roles in life is not defined by our breeding capacity... specially not humans. Now if you were a rat or a cockroach... maybe...

Comment by TNT666 on Tuesday

My mother's breeding capacity was also objectified and denied choice. My mother in many ways was not a fit mother. From the outside looking in... seeing how life has turned out for myself and my siblings, due to family stresses... I certainly should have been aborted, and my siblings... possibly not worth being born either.

Comment by Susan Stanko on February 6, 2012 at 4:46pm

So you object to being born then.

Comment by Susan Stanko on February 6, 2012 at 2:56pm

Do you see your mother as just an object because she dared to have you?

Comment by TNT666 on February 6, 2012 at 9:57am

@PRG, as a 45 y/o non breeding female biologist, I agree with his outlook. I don't see pregnancy as a female choice, but as a patriarchal imposition. In our society, breeding is done for economic purposes, to keep the wheels of the machine rolling, women are but units of production, and I work for that not to be so.

Comment by TNT666 on February 6, 2012 at 9:54am

I do find breeders offensive, to a certain degree, a degree similar to the offensiveness as religious people. You see I have religious friends and breeding friends... both groups of friends know I have serious 'issues' with their life choices, as they have issues with my candor.
As for the child abuse... it need not be scary to be child abuse... it's the very principal of brainwashing a person who's brain is not yet fully developed, especially when it's taxpayer money paying for it. I find it worse when society does it than when the parent does it, though I hate both aspects.

Comment by Prog Rock Girl on February 6, 2012 at 9:52am

I don't care much about the word breeder, but I think this sentence is pretty derogatory: "Having children is to reduce the woman to the status of an object, to make her a slave to the species. She becomes a "breeder," a machine for breeding." This mostly reveals what you think of women, Francois. Having children can make people a lot of things but it doesn't make them into objects.

Comment by dr kellie on February 6, 2012 at 9:17am

It was child abuse to me.  Try living into your teenage years "knowing" you are an abomination because you are gay.  Fucked up.  Or how about being 10 years old and worrying about your atheist grandmother burning in hell... 

Comment by Susan Stanko on February 6, 2012 at 9:01am

I guess it would depend of how the indoctrination happens.  Maybe I am just naive, but I think it would be possible to get a kid to believe without scaring them shitless.  After all, they do believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy.

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