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A group for those who actively rebel against religious bullshit. Religions harm our society, poison our mind and threaten our mental health. This is an Anti-Religions-Group! No discrimination against a certain group of imbeciles, but all of them

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What makes someone become a "Strong Atheist"?

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Comment by yakoub abaya on December 19, 2011 at 1:45pm

sk8eycat for those people if you prove god didn't create us in his image then they will still search for other false beliefs that makes them feel important .

so what we should be doing is making them feel good about themselves even if they aren't actually that important

Comment by sk8eycat on December 19, 2011 at 1:31pm

Many people care very much whether we evolved or were created by a "god."  It makes them feel important to believe that they are copies of "his image."

Right now members of the Religious Wrong are trying to force public schools to give creationism "equal time" in science classes.  If we sit back and do nothing, they will succeed.

These people will never believe that the universe was not "created" in six days, but perhaps their children will.  IF they are taught critical thinking and science as it is...not what their parents wish it to be.

In the meantime, try getting them to give natural selection equal time with creationism in their churches....

Comment by TNT666 on December 19, 2011 at 1:29pm

I partially agree with you yakoub. Science is a nice way of approaching the world, but art is also, as are the humanities. What often breaks my heart on these forums is reading non scientists making science claims, and being wrong in so many ways. There is no such thing as armchair scientist. Also there are those who 'believe' in the positive 'benefits' of science... when science is not an end point but only a method. Science can do equal harm or benefit to humans, it's just a matter of our philosophy when using science.

Furthermore, Rich, you are wrong about religion being against science "from the getgo". In fact, it was quite the opposite... the main thing to have driven males in the last 2000 years is the search for enlightenment through distancing humanity from nature... as nature is a 'base and ugly' thing. This separation started with religion, questioning nature, 'improving' humans. Most great thinkers and scientists have been from among clergy. Only in the past 100 years or so has science been distancing itself from religion. But only 30some percent of scientists are atheists. Admittedly, that's twice the percentage of the rest of the population... but still, not a very big percentage from my standpoint.

And one certainly does not 'need' any science at all in order to reject the supernatural, it is related to having a critical mind and refusing indoctrination, and many scientists have neither of these characteristics. In 10 years in science at university level, the vast majority of students I met did not have a critical mind. Our education system is a major failure in this regard.

Comment by yakoub abaya on December 19, 2011 at 11:09am

irst of all i prefer a secular person who believes the world is flat over a religious person who is an astrophysicists

second even if you proof scientifically beyond any doubt that the religious texts and beliefs are false, but do not change the social structure of our societies then people will still continue to be religious , because once again people don't choose religion because of the debate over how the world was created or how humanity came into existence , people in their daily life wouldn't care less of how we were created , like who cares ? really ? .. on scientific question sure it is interesting and important but on every day ordinary life do you think it matters to people whether the world was created by god or not ? we atheists are missing the WHOLE point, there core of the problem which motivates religious thinking has nothing to do with natural sciences .

Comment by Richard Lawrence on December 19, 2011 at 9:27am

Yakoub,

Why would anyone want to stop using science when dealing with religion?  From a scientific examination of the religious texts to showing the utter failure of prayer, the list is just endless on how science shows religion to be noting more than a story for simple minds.  You are correct, science has nothing to do with religion. Science is a system of knowledge that everyone, including the religious, embrace with open arms and open hearts. 

Religion has been opposing the advancement of science from the get-go.  And religion's track record when opposing science has been perfect; it has lost each and every encounter. :)

Comment by yakoub abaya on December 19, 2011 at 7:57am

STOP using science as a way to fight religion, this is total nonsense science has nothing to do with fighting religion and that is not its purpose, religion is bad and evil because of its history and because of it social philosophy, babbling about physics and mathematics is irrelevant !

Comment by sk8eycat on December 16, 2011 at 12:01pm

Buybulls are usually printed on paper that's too thin and slick to be very useful as TP.  Also, I don't think it would disintegrate easily when flushed...causing a call to Roto-Rooter. Recycling is more beneficial to the environment.

To TNT666: I did complain about the probable extra S&H costs in my original e-mail to Scandinavian Spice (Just so everyone here can avoid them).  They ignored that litttle issue.

Comment by Steph S. on December 16, 2011 at 8:58am
Yes Gary the bible as toilet paper would work too.
Comment by Charles Cusumano on December 16, 2011 at 8:56am

No, I wrote to the Gideons to fuck off. The next reader will take it how they wish.

Comment by George on December 16, 2011 at 8:51am

@Tommy - Did you post feedback on Ebay about it?

 

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