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Strong Atheists

A group for those who actively rebel against religious bullshit. Religions harm our society, poison our mind and threaten our mental health. This is an Anti-Religions-Group! No discrimination against a certain group of imbeciles, but all of them

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What makes someone become a "Strong Atheist"?

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Comment by Richard Goscicki on May 9, 2010 at 10:19am
Mac, are you and the other strongs into

? I think they should make him Prime Minister?

Here's one aspect of abortion I've been thinking about. Women who get an abortion aren't religious types: it's a sin. On the other hand, pro-lifers will drop the baby whether they want it or not. Most of these people have large families. The demographics is scary.

Sorry to hear about your melee. The news coverage sounds criminal. Why didn't your friend charge the priest with assault?

Dig this: the Zombie is supposed to be The Prince of Peace. So what's a priest doing getting into fights? Abortion is a moral issue and he was offended by women who terminate their pregnancy for any reason.

But the Lord did the same thing when he was morally offended. He whipped the moneychangers in the temple and kicked them out. The lesson is if you're offended by the actions of others you have to right to get violent.

Let me know what you think of Pat, OK?

How this for a strong atheist motto? Fuck, smoke, drink, party, have fun: Just stay outta the army.
Comment by Mac Rex on May 8, 2010 at 6:46pm
LOL!
Good smoke always does that to me too, Rich!
I should note that the group I was part of at that time was a coalition of various types of communists, anarchists, and social activists. Calling them me "comrades" is just a simple way of labeling them my political allies. Also, I spent most of my life on the BC coast, as a left-wing political activist. I've never been a red neck!
Comment by Richard Goscicki on May 8, 2010 at 5:56pm
Bravo, Mac. Here you're driving a big transport rig in one of the coldest parts of the world, and you write "our gay comrades." The freethinking movement is making progress.

Maybe gays are referring to A/N members as "our doubting brothers."

The Bolsheviks probably had the same spirit when they overthrew the Czar.

Fighting back is cool but bear in mind that reason must eventually prevail. I mean, the fucking Bible is so ludicrous that people have to smarten up. It conduces war, slavery, male dominated hierarchy, subjugation of women, racism and homophobia.

How the heck did it last this long? The Internet is going to end the mental tyranny. Zombie Jesus (thanks Nick) is going the way of Zeus, Jupiter and the rest of them.

Just had some great smoke. This is what comes out—optimism.
Comment by Mac Rex on May 7, 2010 at 4:54pm
@ Nick
Er, I guess I didn't mention that a half dozen comrades held me back. The tv shot showed me lunging at him, with half our line grabbing me and dragging me back - we were in a linked arm formation, and my comrades knew my temper. It was a good thing, for both of us, that my comrades held me back as, being a politician, he gets special treatment from the cops, and I would have been put in jail.
Our response came in the form of a billboard ad, one of those ones with the fetus on it, being altered so that the fetus was proclaiming it's mother's right to choose. The fuckers had put it up in a very dense, and mainly gay, populated area in Vancouver. Our gay comrades were particularity pissed about it on their turf, and loved our change. It lasted about a week.
Comment by Mac Rex on April 1, 2010 at 7:46pm
@ Scott
I tend to agree with Rich on this. In Vancouver, Canada, at the start of the 1990's, a left-wing coalition (anarchists, various types of communists, and trade unionists) that I was a member of decided one day, after a meeting, to disrupt a pro-birth demo that was to happen that day at Vancouver's Everywoman's Health Clinic (which preformed abortions and family planning). We surround them, and blocked every move that made, chanting slogans about every child a wanted child, and other pro-choice stuff. Non-violence was our plan, but not theirs. I was kicked full out in the nads, by a member of Canada's Conservative party (who are currently in power, but was held back from retaliating, by my comrades. Another one of our people had his nose broken by a Catholic priest. While neither the under cover cops, nor uniformed cops, had any interest in arresting the guy who kicked me (in Canadian law, only cops can charge someone of a criminal offence), even though it was filmed by a news crew, the guy with the broken nose was asked if he would like the priest charged (he declined). On the news that evening, the TV station showed my reaction to being kicked, but edited out the kick., and made no mention of the guy with the broken nose. Friends of mine, who were not at the demo, had to ask me what the fuck had happened, as the news made it look like we were the violent ones.
The lesson, and point I'm trying to make, is that we took the moral high ground, and kept it. While the news distorted the reality, the vast majority of people driving, or walking by, shouted, or beeped their support for our cause, not theirs.
@ Rich
I've read "The Greatest Show On Earth" twice now, and totally agree with you! Very excellent book. In that book, Dawkins mentioned a book by Neil Shubin, called "Your Inner Fish". I just finished it, and it too makes the case of evolution indisputable. I recommend it!
Comment by Rayven on April 1, 2010 at 5:38pm
Richard: That is what pisses them off, the actual facts. The fact that if someone thinks that birth defects are caused by god punishing women for abortion, *when in fact birth defects are caused by environmental factors, genetics, ect.* they are insane and the god they worship is very cruel. Same goes for evoultion, gay rights, and even the bible itself which we all know is very flawed and full of contradictions. I even posted a article about the studies done showing prayer doesn't work. We come from the deep south *bible belt of insanity* so just to question it is outright wrong. But I take comfort in the fact that if something as simple as a breakdown of the various ways the bible is interrupted stirs up negative emotions, then maybe a part of them gets that it's not all it's cracked up to be. And may start thinking for themselves. Or atleast stop with that lame April Fool's Day is the Atheist holiday stuff.
Comment by Richard Goscicki on April 1, 2010 at 2:02pm
Anachro, Hitler was born a Catholic to very strict parents. His father used to beat him regularly.

He mentions God many times in his speeches, but he had his own idea about fate and destiny. Without this weird egotistical belief (that he was fulfilling destiny) the invasion of Poland and Russia might not have happened.

Another case where religion screws up everything.
Comment by Lori Wenger on April 1, 2010 at 12:59pm
Yes he was An, Catholic. And the Pope used to be part of a Nazi youth group.
Comment by Tommy on April 1, 2010 at 12:53pm
I started looking at religion as a type of mask years ago. If the first thing out of their mouth is how much they love Jesus, lookout. Its just so you want see what they really are. Hitler does not have as many murders in his name as in the name of god. How many times to you hear of a child murder by christians who doing gods bidding or terrorist or child molester hiding behind religion. I could go on for a while but you can see why these people scare the hell (LOL) out of me. Oh and I will be celebrating on Sunday. It just happens to be my birthday.
Comment by Richard Goscicki on April 1, 2010 at 10:56am
Good for you, Scott. To me violence, or even the threat of violence, ends the discussion.

I always liked the line, "hell is where there is no reason." Violence destroys logical discourse.

Doesn't it perturb you that they acclaim to follow the "Prince of Peace," and yet they're the first to start throwing punches?
 

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