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Comment by david hartley on May 14, 2013 at 9:25am

I've been discussing a few points over the last couple of American elections with the religiously, or slightly religiously minded and I wondered what you think of them. I'm going to have to concede the point to them that the Constitution at the moment continues to trump the religious test for office that some State constitutions still carry.

One thing about the last election was the hysteria created by the media about Romney's chances. The overblowing of poll results, in fact let's face it the outright invalidity to the level of lies and propaganda, and the wretched emotions it seemed to cause to the Republican supporters.

This was followed by the secessionist cries of the extremists.

The manufactured hysteria was the first warning to me which set me thinking. Did anyone believe that the McCain/Palin ticket ever stood a chance? To the objective observer it was as if the Right had set itself to lose on purpose.

To the outside observer there had to be a reason for this, setting such weak candidates against such a media darling had to have an ulterior motive.

When they wished to impose prohibition they took down a State at a time till they had the numbers required to effect a change in the constitution, the disaffection and emotive outpourings after another snub by the votes of the American public plays right into the hands of the Christian zealots who view their way of life under threat if the country is not run by a person that claims to pray to the tooth fairy before any decisions.

The fact that some States still hold onto parts of State Constitution that demands a religious test for office is the worrying part as it remains a possible leverage to begin to shoehorn religion into public life. Indeed some are now examining the 1st Amendment and claiming it only applies to Federal legislation.

The danger doesn't seem that apparent at the moment, but I do believe it's there. The groundwork so to speak which has me wondering what there next move will be.

So just a snippet of thinking out loud, (or a heads up) just wondered if any other Atheists see a possible trend or am I being overly sensitive to a bunch of people I do not trust?

Comment by Patricia on February 13, 2013 at 1:38pm

An idea:

Don't replace the Pope. End Catholicism. Close the Vatican. Sell all that art & give the money to all

those pederasts' rape victims................

Michael Shermer.

Comment by ɟǝןıx dǝʇɹɐɹ on April 11, 2012 at 3:59pm

@TNT: Really? One of my wives is transgender. If this is what you learnt from your interaction with transgender people, then you have to open your eyes and ears from now on and be more receptive. Start from zero.

Comment by TNT666 on April 11, 2012 at 2:20pm

@ ɟǝןıx dǝʇɹɐɹ  try not to pretend to know me because you don't. My understanding of transgender people comes from real life relationships.

Comment by ɟǝןıx dǝʇɹɐɹ on April 11, 2012 at 11:40am

@Regina Goodwin: I pressume it was a TG lady. You can't stop those fucktards from being mean. Be on her side if you can but the solution for her would be to get out of that social environment. They will not stop and don't expect enlightenment on any of them, even less on 13 people together.

Comment by ɟǝןıx dǝʇɹɐɹ on April 11, 2012 at 11:30am

@TNT: "Transgenders are to me like religionists or homeopathics, way too centred on the mind's misperceptions."

Yes, because you don't know anything about that, you have to formulate an opinion anyway. I don't even bother explain to you what is that; do a little bit of research, find what are transgenders, why are they so and only after that formulate an opinion about that. That is critical thinking and not pointing at one group that they are not such critical thinkers like you.

Comment by dr kellie on April 11, 2012 at 11:07am

Also, @TNT, I don't think there is anything wrong with any of those procedures.  If there was something about my body that I wasn't happy with that was 100% fixable, I would fix it. 

 

 

Comment by dr kellie on April 11, 2012 at 10:07am

If the individual is oblivious, I wouldn't even think about telling her.  Stand up for her when you can, but, in my opinion, the more you put the spotlight on the situation, the uglier it is going to get.

 

 

Comment by TNT666 on April 11, 2012 at 3:43am

Not sure how this is a religious thing. In Iran, the state covers all transgender surgeries cuz transgenders are not mentioned in the Coran. But from a strong atheist viewpoint, gender (as opposed to biological phenotypic sexually differentiated humans) does not exist, just as no spiritual world exists. So given that "genders" do not exist, I don't see the rational of getting a surgery in order to fit into some stereotypical "gender" construct. Transgenders are to me like religionists or homeopathics, way too centred on the mind's misperceptions. To me it's all ridiculous cosmetic surgery, just like breast implants and vaginal 'rejuvenation' and butt hole bleaching.

Comment by Regina Goodwin on April 11, 2012 at 3:16am

Question:

I'm studying Spanish and I am the only atheist in the class.  :D  There is a transgender classmate that is about to be harassed by 13 xtians.  One started preaching Monday nite about this person needs Bubbles aka J.C. and instead of dictionaries in the classroom, we should have bibles. 

One woman was complaining about this individual using the bathroom.  My question is:

Should I inform this individual about the backlash and provide her with a name of an attorney?

This is starting to get ugly in the classroom and both this individual and teacher are oblivious to this situation.  5 members of this cult knows that I am an atheist and have told them where to take their religion.

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