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Latest Activity: Sep 17, 2013
Started by Tina C.. Last reply by Tina C. Jun 29, 2012.
I have always loved the smell of desert rain. I am not 100% sure what causes that unique smell to this region, but I had missed it for many years when I lived up North. It's raining today and it is…Continue
I am confused by the setup of the discussion boards and walls and groups on atheist nexus. Does anyone else run into these sorts of things?The most recent wall comment I see here is from January 2013, but it indicates above that there has been activity in August 2013. Further, if I poke around a bit, I can see some evidence of responses, but they are hard to find, buried in someone's profile for example, and not located on the wall near where a comment was made. Further, I'll see some interesting comment in an email notification, and then go to the group and not be able to find it.
Hi Marty, no problem, just curious.Hi Tina: I think they do a few other things aside from the drinking and the 12-steps. I've only been to about 1 event in the last 5 years, but others I would look for are:I think to change it up sometimes the drinking thing might meet at a cafe?There is more of a regular meetup once per month I think (Denny's somewhere?.... used to be at bookman's on Grant).I think once in awhile they have a party at someone's house (went to one once).Movie nights every once in awhile?There are two or three other semi-similar groups. Aside from the 12-step group I think there's the Center for Inquiry and the Skeptics.All that said, I don't think I'm a massive fan of the whole thing, but every 2nd or third time I"d go I think I came away having had a decent conversation here or there with someone, and while this is not life-shattering, it's something.... some moderate sense of community/fellowship outside of the whole nonsense of God/superstition/barbaric-middle-ages-nonsense.One pet peeve... they can't seem to figure out that it might be good to have meetings here or there on Saturdays or Sundays or Friday nights:http://www.meetup.com/Tucson-Atheists/#calendarNot one single meeting (of any sort) at those times. What's the rationale? I can't and won't complain as I don't and wouldn't go that often anyway, but honestly if their rationale is that people need that time for more important weekend rest time, then I think their rationale is not very bright. Observant Jews reserve Saturdays and Christians reserve Sundays to reflect and commune and I don't see what would be wrong with Atheists allowing for weekend meetings. Anyway, my guess is atheists in other cities allow for some weekend time without serious damage to their lives.Anyway, some ideas. The only thing I've done myself over the last three or four years is that for the heck of it my SO and I did go to a Drinking Godlessly, which was decent enough, and then we also for the Jewish Holidays decided to go to the Unitarian Church for last year's Tucson Secular Humanist Jewish Congregation, where they brought a Secular Humanist (Atheist) Rabbi down from Northern Arizona and had services. Kind of on a lark, I guess we wanted to see how it went. I thought it was ok. The Rabbi led a couple of discussions where we analyzed a few Torah stories from a more secular point of view than one might encounter in some other synagogue.Well, those are my thoughts for now, jl
I have tried meet-ups before and I agree it often depends what you make of them. However, the atheist one didn't seems to appealing to me as the only activities were drinking godlessly, and a 12 step for atheist program... this was a couple years ago I will take another look now...who knows. Thanks for the link.
Sorry jlaz, my background is not Jewish, I was raised catholic but preferred to call myself an agnostic catholic. My wife was christian so again I became an agnostic christian. Now I'm an Atheist with no religious ties. I love the outdoors, I hike, backpack, camp and also love to offroad with my Jeep.
Hi Marty and Tina C. - Good to meet you both.Going back some years I tried to network a bit to meet other atheists and generally other people in Southern Arizona. I did like (ok) the few meetings of the atheist meetup in Tucson that I was willing to attend.http://www.meetup.com/Tucson-Atheists/I don't think it was the be-all end-all, but was something I attended a few times once in a great while (taking into account the time issue in driving to Tucson for me). I think meetups are generally what you make of them. Many of the Tucson atheists I met seemed like pretty reasonable and-or thoughtful people. At the same time, when Atheism is the social tie-in, I'm not sure it's always the most satisfying connection point in the world. So, arguably, I had as much or more fun with things like the very large Tucson hiking meetup, and so-on. (I realize that there are many people who like to hike alone or with a smaller number of people, but at the time that was not me). I also had some other touch-points (for example, alt energy) where once in a great while I was able to connect with folks.Marty, is your background Jewish? I am culturally Jewish... let me quickly add .... I definitely do not believe in God, nor in following the words or Torah as anything other than an old primitive out-dated and in some ways really bad (and at times ultra-boring) moral code and mythology .... but culturally/heritage/etc., yeah.There are some cultural/heritage Jews in history who were/are leading atheists and I guess after a time I stopped fighting to define "Atheist Jew" for folks who don't think there can be such a thing. Once in a blue moon I'll go to Synagogue, but it's usually when I'm just looking for some sense of community. The Rabbi knows me and that I'm a non-believer, and I like seeing him and hearing what he has to say on this and that.
I'm not far from Oro Valley, I live in Continental Ranch just west of the freeway.
Hi, I live in Rio Rico. I have a Significant Other up in Oro Valley so I do get up to Tucson sometimes.
I wish I had enough free time to hike that much, maybe in a couple years. Thanks Marty, I may have to explore the higher country until it cools off, or we get more rain, as everything is so dry right now.
I love to hike and try to hike around 100 miles a month. I very seldom find water though, sometimes water on Ventana or Sabino canyons. I hike the Tucson mountains, Rincons and Catalinas all year long, lately mostly the Tucson Mountains but planning to hit some of the high trails where it'll be cooler.
Hello Marty, nice to meet you. I see a nice desert backdrop in your photo; do you know of nice places to hike near us that have water even during the summer?
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