It occurred to me, at some point, that I had somehow picked up some very skewed perspective of female sexuality (e.g. women don't like sex, but rather simply submit to it to satisfy men).

Since I made this realization, I have been hard at work to correct my misconceptions. A neighbor and I were recently discussing gender sexuality. I told her that I felt it was a piece of sexual discrimination that men were allowed to go without shirts in public (under certain circumstances, like running or a day on the beach) while women were not permitted to do the same. Now, I realize this is due in part to the way that our society has defined gender sexuality, specifically the sexual aspect of women's breasts. They are mammary glands, functioning biologically for the purpose of feeding the young; however, they tend to give rise to sexual arousal in men, and I think this is why, primarily, that we have such a discriminatory rule.

Also, I feel that, as we are gaining ground in gender equality and as women and men near parity in gender equality, the expectations that we have for men and for women respectively should begin to apply to the opposite sex. For example, I feel that women should begin to assert themselves with respect to approaching men that they find attractive, those men that they are interested in (a role that we have traditionally put men in) , and that men should be more willing to become more passive in sexual activity (presuming an increase in women's desire to be more active/dominant).

Here are my questions:

1.) Should women be allowed, upon the basis of gender equality/non-discrimination among genders, to go topless just as men do in certain circumstances, e.g. a day on the beach?

2.) Is it acceptable or desirable that women should become more active or assertive in pursuing or approaching men that they desire, thus engaging in an act or fulfilling a role that men have traditionally found themselves in?

It is true that I am biased. I, being a shy kind of guy, do not approach women in bars or clubs, and it would be to my advantage if women were more apt to approach me. Also, I do feel a kind of hurt resentment with the notion that men's chests are somehow not as sexually appealing as women's breast, such that there is no prohibition against men displaying their torsos because it will not excite the sexual appetite of most women. However, I do not deny that this could very well be the "reality of things".

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1. Yes.
2. Not applicable.

I, being a shy kind of guy, do not approach women in bars or clubs, and it would be to my advantage if women were more apt to approach me.


I've seen your pics. You've no reason to be shy, and I'm sure women would love to approach you, or have you approach them.

I do feel a kind of hurt resentment with the notion that men's chests are somehow not as sexually appealing as women's breast

You are under a false impression. Both straight women, bisexuals, and gay men find the male chest very sexually appealing. It has been culturally sexualized, it is just more accepting than a female chest, for some reason. Probably due to straight men wanting to own their women and to keep them for themselves, in other words, 'hands off fellas - no looking, no touching.'

You could view the Western habit of forcing women to cover their breasts as being very similar to Islam forcing women to cover their hair, or wear a burqua, though Islamic version is obviously more extreme.
"You are under a false impression. Both straight women, bisexuals, and gay men find the male chest very sexually appealing. It has been culturally sexualized, it is just more accepting than a female chest, for some reason."

I love me some tanned, muscled, man-chest. Yes I do. A well-muscled back is oh-so-stimulating too. Take your shirt off and let me watch you rock-climb. Please.
I hear ya. But what is even better than the chest and back are the legs. I am a total leg man - almost to the point of having a leg fetish. If a guy doesn't have nice legs, well then, it almost won't work out. :)
There is a fairly large movement based on the idea that women should be free to bare their chests as men are. I think it's called topfree? However much I morally support the idea, being topless with breasts is mechanically different from being topless without them.
Breasts can be a bloody nuisance! They get in the way, and a day without a bra is usually a day of discomfort, varying greatly from woman to woman. I have NO IDEA how women get by without doing something to their breasts, even if it isn't a western bra. Mine are not even that big and if I was forced to go bra-less for a week I'd be inventing one out of hankerchiefs or something! Not ever having one would probably give me a different perspective, but it would also mean a dramatic change in the shape that breasts are.

Also - mens chests can be nice, but it depends a lot on taste. Personally I'm not much fussed about chests, much more interested in hair.
I've heard women complain about this before, especially when they go jogging or are exercising.
Hells yes. That shit HURTS. Imagine running without proper support jocks...now imagine your penis weighs a couple pounds.

Here. Play with this simulator to see what I mean.
now imagine your penis weighs a couple pounds.

I don't have to imagine. :P

That simulator was funny.
I pretty much can't jog. I break bras made out of steel. That's why I never got into the bra-burning thing...they're a necessary article of clothing! At least for DDD cups...
I know if I spent a day at the beach topless doing the things I normally do at the beach, bodysurfing, skimboarding and playing beach volleyball or beach ultimate, I'd be bruised. That being said, the ability even just to tan topless in my back yard without being thought of as sexually deviant would be wunnerful.
Hmm, I think it would feel awesome and liberating to sunbathe nude. Never really had a place to do that though.
There are naturist networks all over the country. Some sites will actually list areas that are easy to be sans textiles.
I hate bras, and always have. I have large breasts.

I only started wearing bras on a more regular basis because I got tired of having people stare. There are activities where bras are helpful... like driving or being a passenger on a powerboat (I didn't' fancy beating myself to death), riding a horse at a trot, etc... So, I sometimes wear one, and sometimes don't.

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