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Secular Coalition for America (Official)

The Secular Coalition for America is an advocacy organization whose purpose is to amplify the diverse and growing voice of the nontheistic community in the United States.

Website: http://secular.org
Location: Washington, D.C.
Members: 376
Latest Activity: Jan 18

Secular Coalition for Arizona Kick-Off a Rousing Success

Secular Coalition for America Needs Your Leadership to Build More State Affiliates

“What an amazing night.”

The positive online comments keep pouring in!
The movement for a saner and more secular America is blazing a historic new trail, a trail that will lead to Secular Coalitions in all 50 states and the District of Columbia by the end of the decade. On October 12, we took the first exciting steps on that trail with the establishment of the Secular Coalition for Arizona, the first Secular Coalition for America State Affiliate.

To read more, click here!

Discussion Forum

Nebraska trying to organise despite wide open distances

Started by James Kz. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jan 19, 2013. 1 Reply

There were several people in Lincoln today meeting about trying to organise a state chapter of the SCA in Nebraska.Organising people over in Omaha and Lincoln (the state capital) is not too hard, the…Continue

Prayer god and Veterans Admin

Started by mike h.. Last reply by James Kz Oct 23, 2012. 3 Replies

Here we go, this may spur a conversation...I am a disabled vet and am offended at constantly hearing "No athiests in foxholes" .....  …Continue

The Good News Club or Truth Seekers Club

Started by Jeff Dempsey. Last reply by James M. Martin Jun 27, 2012. 1 Reply

This organization is a very serious threat to a "Secular Nation."  These people are using our tax dollars to go into school buildings after hours and teach this garbage to our children!  I'm sure…Continue

Tags: State, &, Church, of, Seperation

Launching A Campaign Against My City To Stop Prayer Before Council Meetings

Started by Jeff Dempsey. Last reply by Jeff Dempsey Jun 17, 2012. 5 Replies

I live in Southern, Ohio and the Bible-Belt runs strong through the hills in our community.  I frequent many city council meetings because of the corruption that has been within our tiny city for…Continue

Tags: State, and, Church, of, Seperation

Secular Coalition Latest News

An Invitation to Exorcise an Atheist

The phrase “More Catholic than the Pope” usually refers to someone who is more religiously strict than the Catholic Church requires. Gordon Klingenschmitt, Republican nominee for Colorado House of Representatives District 15, is not Catholic, but I’d add him to the club.

Klingenschmitt was upset when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a lower court ruling against a Wisconsin public school district that had been holding graduation ceremonies in a local church. He assumed that atheists were responsible, and responded, “I have a solution. Let’s do an exorcism and cast the devil out of them and then they’ll feel comfortable when they walk into church.”

Klingenschmitt had previously claimed that President Obama’s support for gay marriage showed that Obama must be possessed by demonic spirits. He’s also said that Jesus will eventually rule against gay marriage and toss all gays into hell. It’s bad enough that Pope Francis and other Catholic clergy perform exorcisms on the gullible faithful in their own Church, but Klingenschmitt wants to exorcise the devil from everyone who disagrees with his theological and political views.

I rarely feel I can speak for all atheists, but I’ll make an exception for Gordon Klingenschmitt: Dear Gordon, I don’t know what your problem is with atheists, but it won’t be resolved with exorcisms. Any attempt to cast the devil out of atheists would be about as effective as my attempting to cast the Tooth Fairy out of you. We atheists can easily get rid of any evil spirits you dream up by simply not believing in them.

 

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45 Days of Secularism - What Has YOUR Voice in DC Been Up To?

 

We've had a busy summer so far, but it's not time to cool off yet! 
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It's a hot, hazy and humid summer in D.C., but the Secular Coalition for America hasn't let that slow us down. These last 45 days have been jam-packed with action, organizing and lobbying that I'm sure will make you proud. 

We held our best Lobby Day yet, we've been working to block a WWII memorial prayer plaque, and we've been hard at work fighting to correct the Court's disastrous Hobby Lobby decision with our action alerts, lobbying efforts and #KnitABrick campaign. But we've also been speaking at conferences, training awesome interns, and supporting the work of our state chapters.
 
All of these efforts are going strong while the Vice President of the Secular Coalition for America Board, Patty Guzikowski, heads up the search for a new Executive Director. Patty is chairing the search committee and the committee is working with a professional executive search firm to pull in the best and brightest candidates to lead the SCA into the future. 

You'll hear more from Patty and the Board of Directors about the search process soon. In the meantime, check out what we're up to!  (Sorry the list is a bit long. Okay, I'm not really sorry the list is long!)

Here's a taste of what we've been doing for the last 45 days: 

Hobby Lobby Supreme Court Decision

  • Our #KnitABrick campaign in response to the Supreme Court’s Hobby Lobby decision is beginning to draw national media attention. We’ve collected over a hundred bricks and are still going strong--the deadline for bricks has been extended to August 5th!
  • We continue to work with lawmakers on a legislative “fix” for this horrible Supreme Court decision. Just this week we sent an action alert in support of Senator Patty Murray’s (D-WA) bill.
 
Lobbying & Legislation
  • We continue to participate in weekly meetings with the White House.
  • This summer we’ve held more than 20 in-person meetings with U.S. Senators directly, discussing a variety of secular issues.
  • We are in the process of planning a Congressional Hill briefing for the fall educating lawmakers on the nonreligious community and our issues.
  • We have partnered with the American Humanist Association on securing a 2015 Darwin Day resolution in Congress.
  • We were successful in removing language supporting the significance of the “spiritual leadership” of military chaplains from a major defense bill.
  • We successfully blocked efforts to add a religious exemption to the Affordable Care Act’s individual health coverage mandate.
  • We’ve had increasing success in persuading our LGBT allies to reject religious exemptions in LGBT anti-discrimination efforts with our “No Hate No Exceptions” campaign.
  • The SCA joined 98 organizations in a letter to the President, urging him to reject religious exemptions in his LGBT anti-discrimination executive order, gaining significant media attention.
  • In June, we held our annual Lobby Day and Secular Summit, during which we made more than 60 Congressional office visits, and were addressed by four sitting members of Congress—more than any other secular event in history! Watch the speeches on our YouTube channel.
 
Movement Unity & Training
  • We’ve trained six up-and-coming secular activists in our intern program this summer! Some of our interns were recently interviewed by the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) on the role of nontheism among American youth.
  • We’ve been on the road attending conferences across the country including the Secular Student Alliance East & West, American Humanist Association, Unitarian Universalists General Assembly, The Amazing Meeting!, and even Pride events in New York, Baltimore and Washington, D.C.
  • The Secular Coalition is a main contributor to the Openly Secular campaign, in conjunction with the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science and the Secular Student Alliance. The SCA has been hard at work gathering personal discrimination stories to raise awareness about the victimization secular Americans face when they are open about their non-belief.
  • We continue to host our weekly National Movement Calls every Thursday at 12 noon ET. (To participate dial (559)726-1300, enter code: 953064. View past agendas or listen to past calls here.)
 
State Chapters
  • The Secular Coalition for Oregon went head-to-head with the Good News Club's national spokesperson, John Luck, on Oregon Public Broadcasting's flagship radio program, "Think Out Loud."
  • The Secular Coalitions for Massachusetts and Rhode Island teamed up for a joint demonstration to protest the Hobby Lobby decision.
  • The Secular Coalition for North Carolina held its first state Lobby Day.
  • We are working with the Secular Coalition for Texas to plan their state Lobby Day for February of 2015 -- the one month every two years that the TX state legislature is in session
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SCA in the News
Thank you for everything you do to help the Secular Coalition for America fight for your rights as a Secular American.  All of you who respond to action alerts, share our stories on social media, work with your state chapters, attend our events, and support us financially make the Secular Coalition for America great. We're proud to represent you in Washington, D.C. and we hope we're continuing to make you proud too! 

Have a wonderful summer. 
 
Sincerely,
 

Amanda Metskas
President

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Personal Stories From Lobby Day 2014

This piece reprinted with permission from the July/August 2014 Freethought Society newsletter. www.ftsociety.org.  The Freethought Society is a member organization of the Secular Coalition for America.

 

Margaret Downey:

The first time I ever lobbied in person regarding any type of legislation was in 2002 when I joined a coalition to speak out against President George W. Bush’s initiative to exclude faith-based and community organizations from abiding by Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits discrimination based on religion, race, sex, and national origin. The Bush Faith-Based Hiring Initiative allows a religious organization to discriminate on the basis of religion when it hires employees and also permits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

I was asked by a coalition to represent the nontheist community in an effort to stop the initiative from being made into law (via Executive Order) and soon lobby visits took place in Washington, D.C. All went well until we visited the office of then Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum. He is Catholic and a staunch Republican. Even though we had an appointment with Santorum’s legislative aide, Santorum came out of his office to greet us. I was standing at the back of the line. Santorum’s official photographer was also there and he took a photo each time a hand was shaken and a few nice words were exchanged.Santorum smiled and chatted with each representative as he walked down the line, posing for photos along the way. He was pleasant to the Quaker, the Ethical Culturist, the Secular Jew, and the Unitarian Universalist. When Santorum greeted me, he warmly clasped my hand and said, “So who are you?”I told Santorum my name and proudly stated, “I represent the fastest growing minority in America.”

Still holding my hand, he smiled and said enthusiastic-ally, “Well, what minority is that?” “The nontheist community,” I stated.

Santorum instantly and coldly let go of my hand and snarled, “You mean atheists?”

“Yes,” I said, and before I could say one more thing, Santorum turned on his heels and told the photographer, “No more photos.”

Santorum went into his office and abruptly slammed the door. The group was taken aback. We were left to speak to only the aide, who took us to a conference room across the hallway.

One by one, we presented our objections to the initiative. The aide stated that Santorum himself only hires like-minded individuals and that religious institutions should have that ability as well. Still upset about the way Santorum treated me, I chimed in saying, “Oh, so Santorum does not like to hear opposing commentary or different perspectives?”

The aide said, “Well, that would not be a pleasant working atmosphere.”

“So, you are saying that Santorum surrounds himself with a bunch of yes-men, then,” I stated.

“I am not a yes-man,” the aide proclaimed.

Needless to say, I was not making any Brownie points and the coalition became quite uncomfortable. I decided then and there that I needed a lot more training to ever become a good lobbyist. Twelve years later, I decided to try again.

The Secular Coalition for America (SCA) hosted a Lobby Day and Summit June 12-14, 2014. The training, literature and speeches SCA provided during the conference certainly changed my mind about lobbying and I now want to engage in this activity more often.

I know, from experience, how difficult it is to organize and execute a successful conference. It takes almost a year to find a location, book speakers, organize an agenda and pre-arrange for big and small things to go well. There is also a tremendous amount of pre-event work that needs to be done to set lobby appointments and to develop helpful literature. It was obvious to me that former executive director Edwina Rogers had devoted a lot of time, energy and passion into the summit and lobby day. 

While she is no longer working for SCA, her fantastic organizational skills were evident and appreciated throughout the conference. 

Kelly Damerow, SCA’s Director of Federal and State Government Affairs, and SCA Interim Executive Director Amanda Metskas led the event with efficiency. It was impressive to see them execute the agenda with style. 

On the first day, we heard speeches from Congressmen Rush Holt (D-NJ) and Robert Scott (D-VA). We also enjoyed speeches by Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), and Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren (D-CA). It was record-setting to have four politicians address the secular community on the first day of the summit.

After the speeches, people brain-stormed in assigned groups and issue talking points were distributed. 

The Pennsylvania group was assigned the issue of secular tax reforms to be discussed at the office of Senators Pat Toomey (R-PA) and Bob Casey (D-PA). The Pennsylvania group consisted of Brian Fields, Alan Gold, Glen Loev, and me. After a quick bite to eat, we ventured out to present our perspectives.

The first stop was at Toomey’s office. We were impressed with the Legislative Correspondent Katie Cessar. She took notes and seemed very impressed with our declarations against tax loopholes allowed to religious institutions. We used mega-churches as one example of abuse, pointing out that money goes to fund mansions and jets instead of being used for good causes – which is why most people donate to their churches. 

What really got the attention of Cessar was the disclosure that $16.75 billion additional annual revenue could be generated if the IRS were to revoke the tax-exempt status of churches that violate 501(c)3 limitations. When we visited with Casey’s legislative aide, Pablo Rojas, we presented the same facts. Rojas, however, was keenly interested in our talking point about the Catholic Church being able to bypass the IRS when accounting for money in and money out. Pedophile lawsuits are being settled with donations that most parishioners intended to be used for community services. Tax reforms are needed, we claimed, for these and many other reasons.

I was proud to tell Rojas about the good work the nontheist community does – all the while abiding by IRS regulations, submitting accountability forms and following through with earmarked donations. I told him about the Foundation Beyond Belief and he took notes. I was also very pleased to tell him about the huge increase of secular Hispanics. Fields showed him a chart demonstrating the increasing numbers of nonbelievers in America and Rojas asked to keep it. The chart revealed, that according to 2012 statistics, the percentage of the population that identifies as atheist or agnostic is estimated to be between 5.7 and 6.8 percent. This percentage outnumbers the combined membership of Jews, Muslims, Mormons, Buddhists, Hindus, Jehovah’s Witnesses and many other Orthodox religions! When I sent the “thank you” card, I also sent Rojas information about the Hispanic American Atheists and Freethinkers group. Who knows, he may show up in Puerto Rico when the first Hispanic Atheist conference takes place in 2015.

Our last visit was to Pennsylvania Representative Pat Meehan’s (R-PA) office. Legislative Assistant Amanda Lincoln met with us about the harm school voucher programs cause to the public school system. We expressed concern that taxpayer money is helping to fund religious education. The entanglement violates the principle of separation of religion and government. The fact is that 80% of the students participating in a voucher program in just the D.C. area attend religious schools. The blank stare we received from Lincoln indicated that she was not interested. She did not take notes and seemed bored. 

When we asked for her business card, she said, “I will get you each one.” She did not return to the meeting room, but stood outside near the exit indicating that the meeting was over and it was time for us to leave. Even with the cold reception, I followed up with a “thank you” card and provided information about the shawl I was wearing. She had said she liked it very much and wondered where I had purchased it. I bet not many visitors follow through with fashion leads like I did!

The rest of the SCA summit was extremely educational. I enjoyed meeting more SCA staff and was impressed with all the workshops I attended. Lauren Anderson Youngblood, the SCA Director of Communications, con-ducted a superb media training class. Friday afternoon panel discussions were enlightening and there are too many speakers to name in this article. Suffice it to say that each panelist did a remarkable job in conveying important facts and information. I thanked all of them for participating.

I would like to see a bigger FS effort to get participants to the next SCA lobby day event. We need a volunteer to research van rentals and/or organize a car-pooling system. A room share effort would surely help raise participant numbers. Please contact FS if you would like to be the Lobby Day volunteer.

 

Brian Fields:

On June 12, 2014 I joined lobbying efforts with Margaret Downey, Glen Loev and Alan Gold. Together we visited the offices of Senators Pat Toomey (R-PA) and Bob Casey (D-PA).

We also visited the office of Representative Patrick Meehan (R-PA). We spoke with staffers at all three offices. The goal with Senators Toomey and Casey was to educate their staffs regarding tax loopholes for churches. The staffers in both offices were friendly, and to our surprise, Toomey’s office was actually more friendly. We thought that Casey’s Catholic background might have caused some resistance, but that was not the case.

Both Senate offices were interested in the $16.7 billion a year in taxes that churches don’t pay. Additionally, Toomey’s office wanted to hear more about the tax exemption for ministers’ housing, even when the houses are multimillion dollar properties owned by well-known ministers! Both senators’ offices said they had never heard our arguments before.

We spoke with Meehan’s office regarding vouchers. His staff was polite, but icy. We were told that Meehan hasn’t taken a position on vouchers. His staff was interested, however, in the statistics showing nontheists as a growing voting block. I had a chart that illustrated how nontheists outnumber many major voting blocks, and the woman we spoke with seemed very interested in those numbers. However, when we finished our presentation, we were shuffled out fairly quickly. I think that we had a very productive day. I was very encouraged by the interest from the senators’ offices, and hope to get the opportunity to talk with them again.

 

Alan Gold:

The SCA Lobby Day and Summit event was a unique experience. It’s always nice when fellow atheists get together, and when nontheists from all over the United States meet it is truly a delight.

Participants in this year’s lobby day hailed from 28 states and the District of Columbia. I loved meeting everyone at the summit. Our fellow nontheists are friendly and interesting. Lobbying was fun and educational. I really enjoyed spreading the word about the secular, humanist, and atheist causes to the politicians’ offices. I was thrilled to actually meet Senator John McCain (R-AZ) as he walked the corridors of the Russell Senate Office Building. He was in a hurry, so I said I was a big fan of his. He perked up and was very nice and even suggested we take a selfie!

The cost of the conference was reasonable. The part I liked the most was getting to know the speakers, leaders, and activists in the nontheist community. Next year I hope many more people will attend. Car pooling would make the trip go faster. The Pennsylvania group was comprised of only four representatives and I know we can do better.

The group talked to representatives from Pennsylvania, State Senators Pat Toomey (R-PA) and Bob Casey (D-PA). They were attentive and took notes. We did make an impression. Then I split off and went with SCA staffer Sarah Cohen to visit my home Congressman Michael Fitzpatrick (R-PA). His intern gave us a lot of time so I was able to cover much more than the two topics assigned: taxation of churches and climate change. I pushed for teaching science in the science classroom, not religion. The woman said in high school and through college she had no idea what evolution was.

I came to the conference mainly because I had heard about it from Edwina Rogers. She is no longer with SCA and will be missed. Margaret Downey, Glen Loev, and Brian Fields made lobbying a wonderful experience for me. Try not to miss the next one. I know that I will be there!

 

Glen Loev:

This was the second time I attended the two-day annual SCA Summit and Lobby Day event in Washington, D.C., and it was, for the second time, a great experience. 

On the first morning of the event, attendees were treated to speeches from 3 sitting members of the United States House of Representatives, and one sitting Senator. A question and answer session followed each presentation. How incredibly impressive is that! 

Last year, only one senator and one representative spoke at the summit. This year, four members of the highest legislative body in our country took time out of their busy schedules to speak to a group of atheists about issues of interest to us, and to show us that they were on our side in these issues! 

I didn’t count the number of attendees at the event, but would guess there were about 100. How much more impressive it would have been to those members of Congress, and how much more clout we might have, had there been 1,000 of us in attendance!

In the afternoon of the first day, there was a very informative how-to session on lobbying, going over the points that SCA’s Director of Federal and State Government Affairs Kelly Damerow felt would be most helpful for us to present and discuss with Representatives and Senators. We were divided into groups and given background information to review. We were also provided packets of information to leave at the various offices we visited. We had time to practice in advance in regard to what and how we were going to present our legislative requests during the actual lobbying meetings.

Margaret Downey, Alan Gold, Brian Fields and I first visited with a staff member from the office of Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA.) The representative we spoke with was friendly and seemed sincerely interested in what we had to say on the topic of tax code reform. 

Our second visit was to the office of Senator Bob Casey (D-PA). His representative also was friendly, interested in what we had to say, and intimated that he was a kindred spirit. Representatives of both senators were gracious, appreciative of our comments on tax reform, and willing to have a photo taken with us after our meeting.

All of us were feeling very good about how our first two meetings went. Unfortunately, our last meeting didn’t go as well. We met with a staff member from the office of Representative Pat Meehan (R-PA). While she was polite, her lack of questions and general reception (best described as “icy”) gave all of us the impression that she was not pleased at meeting with a group of atheists. She made it clear that Representative Meehan did not agree with our position on school vouchers, and after the requisite “thank you for visiting” she refused to be photographed with us. Even if our efforts in this last case weren’t effective, at the very least we showed that atheists are becoming a greater force to be reckoned with.

That evening, back at the hotel where the lobby event was held, there was a complimentary cocktail party for conference attendees and a screening of Contradiction, a film that examines the effects of faith among African Americans. 

The next day there were several presentations, workshops and discussions on topics such as supporting science in lawmaking, empowering nonreligious youth, strategies for student advocacy on school campuses, working with other movements and the religious on areas where we have common goals, communications, and press relations. There was also a workshop on lobbying at the state level.

This was an excellent event, planned and executed very well by the SCA staff. I would highly recommend to readers of this newsletter that they consider attending next year’s SCA Summit and Lobby Day. Thanks to generous donations, the cost of the event, which includes breakfasts and lunches on both days, is usually very reasonable. But most important, it is a unique and special experience being able to meet and interact not only with representatives of our nation’s major secular organizations and to represent FS, but especially to be pro-active, talking with those who have so much power to influence the direction of our country.

 

Pictured right in the Senator Bob Casey meeting room are (left to right) Glen Loev, Brian Fields, Pablo Rojas, Margaret Downey and Alan Gold. 

Casey defeated incumbent Republican U.S. Senator Rick Santorum in the 2006 election. He is the first Democrat to be elected to a full term and win reelection in the U.S. Senate from Pennsylvania since Joe Clark won reelection in 1962.

Casey played basketball (thus the framed jersey), and during the year he taught 5th graders at the Gesu School in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, he coached basketball.

 

 

The office is located in the beautiful Russell Senate Office Building in Washington, D.C. In 1972, the Senate named the Old Senate Office Building after Senator Richard Brevard Russell, Jr., a Democrat from Georgia who had served from 1933 to 1971. A statue of Senator Russell stands in the Russell Building rotunda. The building also became familiar to moviegoers as the setting for such classic Hollywood films as Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939) and Advise and Consent (1962).

 

This piece reprinted with permission from the July/August 2014 Freethought Society newsletter. www.ftsociety.org.  The Freethought Society is a member organization of the Secular Coalition for America.

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Comment by James M. Martin on March 8, 2013 at 7:26pm

I like the idea of an American Secular Party to compete with the two establishment parties that, as predicted by Washington himself, will destroy America.  To me, the instilling of irrational belief in children -- essentially indoctrination into belief at the sake of reason -- is central to the Party plank.  Keeping Jesus out of the schools by disallowance of vouchers to evil Popes and their evangelical ilk stateside, wold be a Top Ten plank positions.  Taking "God" off coins and absent from the Pledge.  Things like that.  I see Judeo-Christian, and mostly Christian dogma guiding far too many institutions and taking us backward into ancient history rather than looking toward the Dawn of World Enlightenment and True Freedom from The Priesthood.

Comment by AgeOfAtheists14 on March 8, 2013 at 5:54pm

Eghp! all my other wall comments pale in comparison to:
http://www.atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/check-out-u-s-atheist-poli...

Comment by AgeOfAtheists14 on July 2, 2012 at 8:25am

big 'like'

Comment by James M. Martin on June 24, 2012 at 2:42pm

Fine sentiments but falling on deaf ears in King's hands.

Comment by William on November 6, 2011 at 7:49pm
For those who haven't interacted with social workers this is kind of a hard problem to describe. Essentially, Social workers have a code of ethics, in this code of ethics, there is a standard of cultural competence. It says: "Social workers should obtain education about and seek to understand the nature of social diversity and oppression with respect to race, ethnicity, national origin, color, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, age, marital status, political belief, religion, immigration status, and mental or physical disability." I feel the exclusion of Non-religious as a category is getting the way of social workers being culturally competent with secular groups. So I started a petition. http://www.change.org/petitions/nasw-include-non-religious-a-catego...
Comment by sehkmet on July 11, 2011 at 11:54am

Hi All,

I don't know if you've heard about the vote on the "I Voted" stickers handed out on election day.  Some of the stickers have our state motto, "With God all things are possible".  There are more details at Friendly Atheist.  All you have to do to vote is supply an Ohio zip code.  They run from 43001 to 45999.  Voting closes on August 8, 2011.  Please vote Elect Your Sticker.  Multiple voting may require cleaning out cookies and/or rebooting between votes, not sure.

Comment by Richard Haynes on April 17, 2011 at 12:57pm
Just so everyone knows, when a spammer gets past our walls, we ban them as soon as they are reported to us. This is why they don't show up in member searches. We already banned them.

In the future, remember to use the "Report an Issue" link at the bottom of every page. We will act as soon as we are notified.

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Comment by George on April 17, 2011 at 10:04am
@Bryon, TFA,
That spam account was deleted sometime yesterday.
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Yes, I'm getting junk mail and I don't like it!  What's going on here?
Comment by Bryon on April 17, 2011 at 1:33am
is anyone else getting junk mail from Jenifer Hagge via this site?
 

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