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Comment by Sa Janes on October 25, 2009 at 10:24pm
Hi Robert! Go Aussies!

To your point -- I think there are a few additional things to consider about America:

It's a fairly diverse population and quite a bit more so than Australia. The population of the Los Angeles area alone is nearly equal to that of all Australia. In the colonial era, many protestant groups were encouraged to settle in America. For instance, those we have traditionally referred to as "Hillbillys" are descended from a large migration of Scottish protestants who settled in the Appalachians (with the attendant sirnames Grant, Perry, McCoy, etc.). Similarly, we had large migrations of the Amish, the Quakers, the Shakers, Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, and Baptists -- all considering themselves to be refugees from English/Northern European Catholic/Anglican domination. Yep -- you could sail to America, grab a very large parcel of virgin, fertile land and all it cost you then was cost of the voyage -- no citizenship requirements, no Oath of Allegiance, and no taxes, and you could practice just about any form of off-beat, weird, wacko religion you could dream up. Pretty appealing for those wishing to escape the socio-economic hegemony of the established church. As well, there were enhanced economic prospects on offer for anyone capable of crossing the Atlantic (a stones throw from Europe as compared to Australia).

America also received it's share of indentured servants and prison labor by virtue of the European nobility and their vested interests, as well as an enormous number of African slaves.

All in all, even though America eventually became a large colony for the English, a nearly equal number of people from other countries and cultures were active and just as culturally dominant (if not militarily so).

I lived in Australia for nearly ten years, primarily in the North Ryde area of Sydney at MacQuarie University, and I reckon trying to guage "America" byte-for-byte based on it's comparatively large number of wackos would be similar to guaging all Australians based upon a sampling of the folks in Adelaide, a.k.a. 'The City of Churches' -- or perhaps more accurately, Toowoomba, or even Kalgoorlie.

All that aside, I am an openly, near militantly, atheist, as are most people I know, and I have never encountered the problems you seem to think plague all Americans.

Having lived life in both places (and for the past ten years in Greater Asia/China--another story in itself), I submit that, pound-for-pound per capita, there are an equal number of wackos distributed more or less evenly throughout the free world. Pauline Hanson and her ilk come to mind.

By the way, I was born in England of a LAncashire mother and an American GI father -- my Aussie friends endearingly refer to me as a 'Pome-Seppo' (as an Aussie, I think you well understand the term).

Cheers mate!
Comment by Robert Tobin on October 24, 2009 at 7:12am
My reply to:
Atheists Are the Most Mistrusted Group: They Are Evil and Immoral
Submitted by Robert Tobin on October 24, 2009 - 5:08am. on that Site.
We Australians regard America as a nation with a strange attitude to religion. How come, in many States Evolution is shunned in favour of the teaching of the stupid fables about Creation and that it is true because it is in the Bible and the Bible is the "Word of God" thus being true.

Why is it that Atheists can be hounded out of their homes and towns and denied employment in the Bible Belt States. I have/had a friend in Florida who suffered that discrimination. He did hint that he was considering suicide. I have not heard from him since. Make you conclusions about that.

Why are Americans so gullible. They swallow all the lies preached by those Televangalists and hand out millions of dollars to those crooks. I read that 46% of American Christians believe the Sermon on the Mount was preached by Rev. Billy Graham.

Australians consider Americans as a bit THICK.
Comment by Marc Draco on October 23, 2009 at 6:29am
UK Atheists wanted.

I'm considering filing a petition to the UK Government website to demand they talking down to us about their "beliefs" - because they are just that. Not supported by evidence.

I need some backup though, but you have to live in the UK or you can't file.
Comment by Beachbum on October 19, 2009 at 8:45pm
I have been a member of and the foundation for a few years now, so I felt this an appropriate forum in which to belong. I have read his books and I am reading "The Greatest Show on Earth" at present, but I am one of those that read at every chance and as many books at once, as I CAN.
Comment by John Grow on October 17, 2009 at 8:10am
Thank you Jonathan for posting that. He doesn't seem to answer the question itself, but points up the absurdity of the belief.
Comment by Emily Dietle on October 16, 2009 at 8:18pm

Great interview/debate
Comment by Hugh Kramer on October 15, 2009 at 1:53pm

Artist crucifies an ape and electrocutes a black Jesus in London:
There's a new cross on display at the old Holy Trinity Church at Marylebone in the heart of London but the figure dangling from it isn't Jesus; it's a gorilla. Actually, it's a sculpture; one of 60 pieces in an exhibit called The Age of the Marvelous. And the church isn't a church either; at least, not any more. Built in 1825, the former Holy Trinity Church is now One Marylebone, a conference center catering to meetings, events and exhibits, large and small.

The very life-like gorilla on a cross was created by artist Paul Fryer with the help of a former Madame Tussauds waxworks expert. The piece is entitled The Privilege of Dominion and is intended to highlight the plight of the Western Lowland Gorilla as well as to challenge the idea that animals have no souls. The artist insists that he didn't intend to offend Christians.

The artist also defended his other work in the exhibit, a Pieta-like sculpture of an electrocuted black Jesus, by saying it was intended it was intended to challenge people's notions of race and religion.

More here.
Comment by Isom Crisp on October 14, 2009 at 12:10am
Got my copy signed at USC tonight! :D
Comment by Chuck VonDerAhe on October 13, 2009 at 9:09pm
Genovive.... that's the reason gawd invented bookcovers.
Comment by Scott Dexter on October 13, 2009 at 8:53pm
If they can't get past the cover there isn't much hope they'll get to the inside.

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