A logical argument I've never heard argued

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Permalink Reply by John Grow on July 18, 2009 at 6:50pm

Infinity is more of a mathematical or philosophical concept than a strictly scientific or empirical one. It's so foreign to our worldview that we can't properly conceive of it. Kind of a nice place for a beleaguered god to hunker down, yes?

Permalink Reply by Tonya Wynn on October 26, 2010 at 12:07pm

But, I think infinity of time and space are logical, and coulda sworn Albert Einstein did, too. I think there will always be something smaller than a string or quark and always more universes out there to be discovered.

Permalink Reply by Aiden on July 20, 2009 at 4:49pm

The typical answer to this argument would likely be something along the lines of "we're unable to know the mind of god"...

Permalink Reply by Mike Hitchcock on December 25, 2009 at 4:01am

Always happens - ask a Christian a tough one and they don't know the mind of God. Funny - they know it well enough to know He "hates fags"...

Permalink Reply by Doug Bates on January 1, 2010 at 8:29am

Nice, I like that one.

Permalink Reply by skepticmom on October 17, 2010 at 3:24pm

That is a good one.

Permalink Reply by Tonya Wynn on October 26, 2010 at 12:09pm

And we are unable to know all that is in the Universe(s) or even in our own world or in science. There is no GOD, as written about or currently believed in, but 'infinity' exists.

Permalink Reply by Manny Espinola on July 24, 2009 at 1:44am

A very slooooooooooow-witted god

Permalink Reply by Matt on November 13, 2009 at 9:57am

If you try to use infinity in a common-sense way it gets funny : a god that exists for an infinite amount of time could never arrive at the present, because the amount of time he would have to wait to get at the present would be infinite. so a god who was always there, is nevertheless not here yet now.

Or, if the amount of time that god exists is infinite, then any portion of that time is also infinite, so the amount of time he spent before he created the world was infinite and therefor has not happened yet, and never will.

Permalink Reply by Limber Lightfoot on December 30, 2009 at 3:02am

Hey Matt, I like it.

Except...well if their God exists in infinity then it must by definintion be existant for every moment of time, which includes now. Your statement is, of course, also utterly true though. :-)

Actually, if you use the infinite number of monkeys theory it could be argued that in an infinite amount of time everything must happen therefore both humanity created by God and humanity not created by God has happened/will happen (is happening concurrently if you bring in the multiverse) so we and theists are just arguing about which is happening right now and here.

Infinity does my head in. Religion is probably just a form of panadol for the intrinsic headache that comes with living in an infinite universe. Pity about the negative side effects.

Permalink Reply by Ashleigh Carter on March 30, 2011 at 3:25am

That's what I said! And they were like, "Of course he could get to this point in time! He's god!" Of COURSE he could. Because he's GOD. THANKS for clearing that up. Must be nice being able to just wisk by paradoxes like that.

Permalink Reply by Stevie Hunter on November 20, 2009 at 8:40pm

Well, the problem with that is the argument is hitting on their ground. And you know theists, their God has no bounds and crap... I'd suspect to never get a straight answer even if ever Theist banned together.... problem is this will not phase them one flick.

Your point is perfect... But the majority is too ignorant to see that.

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