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Recovering from Religion

Unless you were raised by atheist parents, you probably had some recovering to do when you left religion. The purpose of RR is to provide a landing place for people when they jump from religion. With local support groups throughout the US, Canada, UK, and Australia, and real-time resources accessible to everyone, RR is where to turn when faith has lost its luster.

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In what way are you still recovering from being brought up religious?

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Richard C Brown Aug 30. 57 Replies

I was brought up in a fundamentalist family.Anyone still dealing with any issues from religion?Do you fear the result of coming out Atheist to your family?Any thoughts are welcome.Continue

Catholic Family / Atheist Wedding - HELP

Started by Megan. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck May 31. 4 Replies

Any one else out there still recovering from Catholic guilt??I come from an extremely Catholic family/upbringing. In 6 days I will be the first person in my entire extended family not to marry a Catholic in a Catholic Church.My biggest source of…Continue

Anyone still deal with anything like this?

Started by Starland Victor Seay. Last reply by Matt Skaggs Aug 26, 2013. 27 Replies

One thing I have noticed is a tendency to "doubt" my new path in life. I still want to reach for the Bible sometimes. I still hesitate somewhat when someone mentions Pascal's "Wager"...LOL! Even though I know that science teaches this and that no…Continue

"Thief in the Night"

Started by cbenhamcox. Last reply by Luara Aug 18, 2013. 2 Replies

Last night I was reading Seth Andrew's book, Deconverted, and I almost fell out of my chair when he discussed being forced to watch the end times film from the 1970's call "A Thief in the Night."  He described some of the scenes, and I had a…Continue

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Comment by James M. Martin on February 19, 2013 at 7:38pm

Richard, I always bring up the moral inconsistencies, especially in this age of presentism, which I define as an attempt to impose 6,000-year-old ethical standards on the 21st century people.  I point to Genesis, too, and to the story of Lot in particular.  After fleeing Sodom, which, we are told, God destroyed because of its homosexuality, Lot first sees his wife turned into a pillar of salt, then impregnates his own daughters to ensure continuation of his line.  Thus, it may easily be seen, God hates queers, but he approves of father-daughter incest.  Seems to me we have enough incestuous pedophiles in our prisons today.

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on February 19, 2013 at 7:33pm

Though that should be fairly  obvious, since Australia has had 2 atheist leaders in Gough Whitlam and now Julia Gillard.

Being an publicly known atheist doesn't lesson their chances of winning here, she is still neck-to-neck with her conservative theist opposition.

So, atheism is actually considered normal or common in Australia.

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on February 19, 2013 at 7:25pm

Though I've read that both the UK and USA are developing a joint approach to implementing a national science and education curriculum that all government funded educational institutions must apply, similar to that which has existed in Australia for many years.

This will wipe creationist teaching out of all publicly funded schools, since it just will not be allowed in the curriculum that must be adhered to.

It's been banned in Australian publicly funded schools for many years, which is why ex teachers of creationism, such as Ken Ham had to move to the US where he could teach it.

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on February 19, 2013 at 7:17pm

Well Richard, we were only 14 at the time and rebellious kids.

The teacher is still alive, gave up teaching for obvious reasons and last I heard was the head priest of his church.  So he hasn't done badly.

Once they are as badly indoctrinated as he was, there was no hope in making him see the light.  Ridicule was our only weapon against him.

Though, I couldn't stand being in a community of religious people, I even door knock for a couple of religion based charities and get rejected and nasty comments made at me by residents, because I am representing a religious group.

Most of the inhabitants here are atheists.  

It's the religious people in our community who are vilified.

So it's completely the opposite here.

I have to go online to taunt the religious.

If I could do it in my community, I would.

Aye M8!  :-D-

Comment by Richard Goscicki on February 19, 2013 at 6:59pm

I’m an old friend of James so I might as well pitch in.  About the inconsistencies’ in the Bible, the television pioneer, Steve Allen, wrote a beautiful expose listing dozens and dozens—too numerous to enumerate.

 

But I feel a non-believer’s response should be militant but not hostile.  Playing nasty tricks on your teacher isn’t the way to respond.  To my mind, the truth has to win out eventually.  A slow grinding education, especially in the area of evolutionary biology, is the way to fight back.  It’ll take a lot of time, but eventually people will see these religious myths for what they are: attempts to comfort weak minds who can’t accept their existential reality—that life is meaningless and humans aren’t the end result that the forces of nature had in mind.  Because there is no mind. 

 

 I believe the way to go was to ask the teacher pertinent questions that challenge his/er supernatural non sequitors.  Just think of what you could have done with Genesis Chapter One.  The trouble is, it’s hard to stay calm when we think of all the damage this stupid book has caused.  I get mad myself just thinking about it.  When the teacher tells the class, the Bible says “subdue the Earth” tell to go fuck himself. 

 

Now that I think about it, you might be right and I’m wrong.  The Earth might not last that long.

 

Comment by James M. Martin on February 19, 2013 at 5:50pm

I am on A|N because everyone here is religulous and I have no one to express my thinking with or hear theirs, most atheists being pretty uptight about it.  And also as expiation for many many years of belief.

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on February 19, 2013 at 4:55pm

Now Finally to finish off my story:

This is why I troll religious forums and attack creationists at every chance I get.  I've cleaned out nearly all the creationists on: http://www2b.abc.net.au/tmb/Client/TopicList.aspx?b=87&dm=1

as goiday_myd  which was meant to be Goiday_My.D for a Doctorate of Mythology, but that was the nearest I could get.  

I've been banned from many devout  Xtian sites when they realized I was just trolling.  Though most that I used to troll on have shut down.  

I'm been a science fan since the age of 8, so I've been attacking creationists for nearly 20 years.  Currently having a go at them on Debate.org  as Sagey.

That's my story, James, how come you are on AN M8?? 

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on February 19, 2013 at 4:37pm

Though now came the nasty bit, I started to annoy the teacher and even started to undermine his authority in the class, playing practical jokes on him, with the help of the others like changing titles on the religious indoctrination material he was presenting, we even swapped the labels on his records of lessons and speeches from Cardinals onto pop records so we could have something decent in class to listen to.

He lasted six months before he had a complete nervous breakdown.  We turned from a class of nice kids into a class of bullies and attacked him continuously until he buckled.  Not nice, but it was actually fun!   Aye M8!  :-D-   He deserved it in our books!!! 

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on February 19, 2013 at 4:27pm

By the way, one of my class mates, who was starting to believe in it and liked the buybull studies teacher, actually raised the matter of a couple of the contradictions in class, to which the teacher blankly stated the same as yourself, and called the existence of such contradictions as preposterous lies.  This stunned our mate and confirmed to him (because of numerous, obvious contradictions we found) that the teacher was indeed the only liar in the room.  

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on February 19, 2013 at 4:16pm

LOL James, right from the very first book, the contradictions hit those who read it like a novel,  light on first day of creation (night and day already), yet Sun arrived on day 4, seems a bit weird.  That is why the buy bull creates atheists, this is supposedly inspired or dictated by an omnipotent, omniscient (all knowing and wise) super being.  How could it be so bad, stupid and even ugly.  Maybe this being isn't so omniscient after all.  This is the impression many reading it reach.  My best friend of 30 years is a devout Catholic, all his children had a strict Catholic schooling, yet their school allows free access to the buybull in the library which they have accessed and read without guidance.  All his children have gone past atheism to becoming anti-Christian.  I had no influence on them, yet his youngest, who didn't realize was an atheist, attacked the buybull in front of me, expecting a rebuttal from moi, since he considered me a devout Catholic like his dad, yet was shocked when I supported his hatred of it.  I know this is only anecdotal, though I've seen it played out many times and similar to my own experience where all my class who I informed of the contradictions when I discovered them are atheists as well.  Their indoctrination failed on all of us, because our privately gained knowledge allowed us to realize that they were cherry picking passages to avoid exposing contradictions. This made them look like charlatans to us and we distrust all religious clergy from that experience.  They are less trustworthy than sewer rats.

 

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