Recovering from Religion

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Recovering from Religion

Unless you were raised by atheist parents, you probably had some recovering to do when you left religion. The purpose of RR is to provide a landing place for people when they jump from religion. With local support groups throughout the US, Canada, UK, and Australia, and real-time resources accessible to everyone, RR is where to turn when faith has lost its luster.

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In what way are you still recovering from being brought up religious?

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Richard C Brown Aug 30. 57 Replies

I was brought up in a fundamentalist family.Anyone still dealing with any issues from religion?Do you fear the result of coming out Atheist to your family?Any thoughts are welcome.Continue

Catholic Family / Atheist Wedding - HELP

Started by Megan. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck May 31. 4 Replies

Any one else out there still recovering from Catholic guilt??I come from an extremely Catholic family/upbringing. In 6 days I will be the first person in my entire extended family not to marry a Catholic in a Catholic Church.My biggest source of…Continue

Anyone still deal with anything like this?

Started by Starland Victor Seay. Last reply by Matt Skaggs Aug 26, 2013. 27 Replies

One thing I have noticed is a tendency to "doubt" my new path in life. I still want to reach for the Bible sometimes. I still hesitate somewhat when someone mentions Pascal's "Wager"...LOL! Even though I know that science teaches this and that no…Continue

"Thief in the Night"

Started by cbenhamcox. Last reply by Luara Aug 18, 2013. 2 Replies

Last night I was reading Seth Andrew's book, Deconverted, and I almost fell out of my chair when he discussed being forced to watch the end times film from the 1970's call "A Thief in the Night."  He described some of the scenes, and I had a…Continue

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Comment by Pamela Dale on June 26, 2012 at 10:11am

I grew up angry about a great many things.  It helped me get out of a very bad environment but like a double-edge sword, it also hurt me.  When I finally discovered about the truth of religions I was not angry, I think it was because I suspected that God and religion was false for a long time because of my hard life. I think my reaction was a great sadness to know that we are here alone and there was no real reason for my suffering.  Now I am looking for the contentment in the truth of my existence in a world without an equalizer. Anger is a useful but dangerous tool.  Be careful with your anger, it can burn away the dross but the heat can also prevent you from seeing the seeds of truth.

Comment by Meddlesome on June 26, 2012 at 2:36am

Im seeing a lot of anger in recent posts here, while I would say that it is right to feel this, I would like to also point out that we should also be happy that we are no longer propagating the cause of this anger. I know for myself, that when i recognised the lie of religion I was angry, But for the first time I was at peace with myself.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 26, 2012 at 2:14am

dr kellie  I felt a sense of anger in myself, reading your comment. So many unsaid things I didn't say to my grandmother. I don't mean to imply there is her spirit I can talk to, but talk to my memories; she is so alive in my memories and I often come to a realization of how hard her life was, what with a wood stove for cooking, her garden, doing laundry over boiling water on a hot stove in summer, cutting kindling and building a fire, ice blocks in a wooden ice chest, the outhouse that stunck as back as the chicken yard. The wonderful meals, pies, cakes, cookies, fried chicken, even homemade ice cream in summer. I took her for granted and didn't realize how hard it was for her to put a meal on the table day after day. And keep us clean, and changing sheets, washing them in that boiling tub on the stove; the wringing out the hot water was the miserable part.  Her kitchen always smelled of Purex on laundry day.

Thanks for the memories!

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 26, 2012 at 2:02am

Tomlyn McAllister I like your comment, especially about vicarious redemption being a corruption of systemic religious practices. You state it so strongly, I repeat it here:

"And that is the whole problem with the Christian concept of vicarious redemption. The totally immoral concept that you can be absolved of all transgressions and wrongdoings through the absolution from someone other than he to whom you have transgressed. That you can be absolved of all your sins by believing that someone else has suffered your obligation for you is morally obscene...and is the central core of Christian doctrine.

Tomlyn McAllister

Comment by dr kellie on June 25, 2012 at 5:37pm

I'm angry too.  I would have probably gotten over it by now if I didn't have to be bombarded with so much bullshit almost every day.  I'm irritated by the sheer insanity of religion, and I'm also livid in regard to the shaming of women and sex in general.  And I remember being young and thinking about my atheist grandmother in hell.  Many tears were shed over that nonsense. 

 

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 25, 2012 at 5:09pm

Darrel, very wise counsel! Realizing anger is a necessary and not sufficient stage of growth, it does get a bit tiresome. I look to the day when I can read, hear, or see some evidence of abuse and not have such a knee-jerk reaction. Thanks for the encouragement. 

Comment by Darrel Ray on June 25, 2012 at 3:40pm

If you are angry as a result of the deceptions of religious indoctrination and training, you are in good company. I have noticed as people come out of religion that they go through stages, much like the stages of grief and loss. Anger is a big part of shedding religion. Do not minimize your anger, don't try to ignore it or pretend it is not there. Let it be a part of you and respect it. You will learn a lot by listening to your anger. You will learn what you have missed in life and what you want to do with the rest of your life now that religion no longer dictates. Eventually, you will find places you can direct your angry energy, in ways that affirm you as an ethical and moral person without religion. Listen to your anger, but don't judge yourself and try not to judge or condemn others. Parents, relatives, even priests and ministers, had the best of intentions when they infected you.

200 years ago, before the germ theory of medicine, father's, mother's and doctors often gave children diseases with the best of intentions. They used contaminated spoons to give medicine. They used dirty knives to cut out splinters. They offered medicine that made an illness worse or did things that today we know encourage disease. They did not know better, so how can we blame them? We can blame pedophile priests and abusing ministers, they commit their crimes despite their scriptures. But for parents, relatives, and many religious people, they were infected just like you. Unfortunately, they never had the opportunity or did not have the intellectual tools to question and ultimately reject religion. Compassion must be part of the process. Understanding, "But for the grace of reason and critical thinking skills, go I" - goes a long way toward helping channel anger.

I have been enjoying reading these posts about what made you angry and I would like to hear more. It gives us an opportunity to see how others are experiencing and expressing their anger.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 25, 2012 at 3:04pm

I'm angry for being programmed as a child to think incorrectly, waste a lot of time and resources, and carry with me for 55 years, a huge amount of guilt and fear for never being good enough.  

I'm also angry, as Joan D said, for the abuse of so very many other children.

Comment by James M. Martin on June 25, 2012 at 12:45pm

The concept of "sin" is entirely an invention of religion and is a false construct.  Without God, there can BE NO SIN.  One of the reason I respect Buddhists is that they have no concept of sin.  When one does something wrong, one commits "error."  My only problem with Buddhism is its metaphysics, the twin cocepts of karma and reincarnation, which I cannot accept (thought they make as much sense as going to Heaven or Hell).  Buddhism teaches that the only way to prevent error is to meditate.  The purpose of meditation, it seemed to me (when I spent about a decade studying Buddhism) is to be aware of thoughts as they arise so that one becomes slow to anger and maintains equanimity and the ability to nip harmful behavior in the bud.  "Sin" is just too stupid to bother with.

Comment by James M. Martin on June 25, 2012 at 12:35pm

@ Tomlyn: The reason the priest's breath was foul was that he forgot to use mouthwash after sucking ejaculate out of the altar boys.

 

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