Recovering from Religion

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Recovering from Religion

Unless you were raised by atheist parents, you probably had some recovering to do when you left religion. The purpose of RR is to provide a landing place for people when they jump from religion. With local support groups throughout the US, Canada, UK, and Australia, and real-time resources accessible to everyone, RR is where to turn when faith has lost its luster.

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In what way are you still recovering from being brought up religious?

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Michael Penn 1 hour ago. 18 Replies

I was brought up in a fundamentalist family.Anyone still dealing with any issues from religion?Do you fear the result of coming out Atheist to your family?Any thoughts are welcome.Continue

Catholic Family / Atheist Wedding - HELP

Started by Megan. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck May 31. 4 Replies

Any one else out there still recovering from Catholic guilt??I come from an extremely Catholic family/upbringing. In 6 days I will be the first person in my entire extended family not to marry a Catholic in a Catholic Church.My biggest source of…Continue

Anyone still deal with anything like this?

Started by Starland Victor Seay. Last reply by Matt Skaggs Aug 26, 2013. 27 Replies

One thing I have noticed is a tendency to "doubt" my new path in life. I still want to reach for the Bible sometimes. I still hesitate somewhat when someone mentions Pascal's "Wager"...LOL! Even though I know that science teaches this and that no…Continue

"Thief in the Night"

Started by cbenhamcox. Last reply by Luara Aug 18, 2013. 2 Replies

Last night I was reading Seth Andrew's book, Deconverted, and I almost fell out of my chair when he discussed being forced to watch the end times film from the 1970's call "A Thief in the Night."  He described some of the scenes, and I had a…Continue

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Comment by Marshall on October 26, 2009 at 4:37pm
Mary- I totally hate that. I dread going to wal-mart for that very reason.
Comment by Mary M. Wible on October 26, 2009 at 4:33pm
I hate,when going into a store and outside are jesus helpers begging for money. I was asked for money on Saturday for god. Does this not acceptable.
Comment by Richard Goscicki on October 22, 2009 at 10:08pm
Darrel, I just mentioned you at my humanist group meeting. That "spiritually advanced" line got a big laugh.

I'll mention kiva.org next week. Some of our members are quite wealthy and give a lot to charity. They'll be interested.
Comment by Darrel Ray on October 22, 2009 at 10:02pm
A challenge to all of those in our RR group. I have been a member of Kiva.org for over two years and have found this to be a superb way to help people in a way that ensures my "charity" money is used wisely with minimal religious influence.

Kiva is a micro loan organization that takes my money and lends it directly to a small business person in a third world country. They use it to build their business or start a business. The person is responsible for repaying the loan. When it is repaid, I get my money back and can loan it again to someone else or withdraw it.

I keep about $450 in my account and in circulation at any given time. That may sound like a lot, but it really isn't since I have loaned every dollar of that money many times. I decided that instead of just giving money to some charity and never seeing any results, I would put some of the money I normally give into Kiva. I have only had two $25 loans default in over two years and have made 70 or 80 loans (maybe more). More important, all of my dollars would have disappeared if I have given to most charities, with Kiva.org you see your money at work and it gets repaid.

I would like to ask you to take a look at Kiva.org as one of your charities. As a religionist, you used to pour money down the church rathole, with Kiva you can do something constructive with the same money. If you want any advice on how to use Kiva.org feel free to contact me. It is not difficult and you will find it so much more rewarding than most charities - in fact it does not even feel like a charity except that I don't get any interest on my money and I donate a few dollars to Kiva every now and then. Its more like a good business deal that benefits a lot of people.

There is a lending team at Kiva made up of Atheists. Of all the lending teams on Kiva, Atheists have the highest loan value with over $1,000,000. Christian groups aren't even close to our Atheist team. I hope you will join Kiva and if you do, be sure to join the Atheist lending team.
Comment by Richard Goscicki on October 20, 2009 at 6:37pm
the Bible is a euphemistically literal metaphorical representation of a deity that is unknowable and a mystery that no one has seen.

You said a mouthful, Julia. Beautiful. The only thing I don’t understand is how the hell did the church win over so many believers with lines like the above.
Comment by Richard Goscicki on October 20, 2009 at 6:35pm
You're not the only one. Evolution has wired the young to believe whatever elders tell them, i.e. Santa Claus.

Dawkins' Root of All Evil deals with the religious indoctrination of children. Excellent writing by a renowned scientist.
Comment by Kristi Leitholt on October 20, 2009 at 4:10pm
I totally bought the Adam and Eve thing, because God could do anything. And I ate up the apologetics from Answers in Genesis like candy. Yep...

I'm glad I can think for myself now.
Comment by Marshall on October 20, 2009 at 1:34pm
Couldn't agree more with you Richard. The whole Adam and Eve thing is so absurd that I cannot help but think believers in this tale have a disorder of some variety.
Comment by Richard Goscicki on October 20, 2009 at 12:11pm
Fun post, Jack. Also, we can confront believers with actual Biblical beliefs as well as quotes. Here’s what I mean: ask believers if they really believe that God made Eve from Adam’s rib.

Ask them to try to picture it in their mind. A spirit of some sort, omnipotent, of course, comes to Earth. The Bible says man is in His image, so He’s got two arms, two legs and a head. So the entity comes down from heaven and creates Adam by pointing his finger at him and declaring, “Let there be man.” So far, so good.

And so it was. Adam awoke rubbing his eyes and moaning, “Where am I?” Gen 24: 13-15.

And God sayeth: “Don’t worry about that. I forgot to make you a playmate so you can have some fun,” and God rubbed His eyes wondering what to do. “Sweet Jesus,” sayeth God, “there aren’t any sticks or rocks around, so I’ll have to extract one of your ribs, if you don’t mind.”

“OK,” sayeth Adam, “but don’t get ideas about making her a wardrobe with frilly dresses and tight designer jeans. It’ll be more fun going au natural.”

And God sayeth, “Sure, I get you. Just don’t eat of that tree over there because I can’t give you everything.”

“Not everything? That’s fine. Just so the lady and I can frolic and gambol in this beauteous garden.” Sam 3: 50-149.

And God did createth the lovely Eve. As he leaveth He sayeth, “Have fun kids. Be fruitful and multiply and don’t fuck around with any talking snakes.”


For my whole life, it’s always been a mystery to me how people can buy this stuff. That’s the greatest mystery of the Bible to me.
Comment by Jack Russell on October 19, 2009 at 11:00pm
I love the idea of the god virus. I totally agree that you don't defeat a virus with an argument, you beat it with an anti-virus. How do you get an anti-virus, simple take the virus, change it a little and put it back in. If you want to be aggressive, you tweak work with its native DNA.
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Now for Deconverting Christians that is so easy. Agree with them, but give them back some of the messed up bible DNA. Then when they are forced to look up what you said, they get even more messed up. The bible does all the work for you. Tada!

I have a bunch of successes in my blog on great deconversion tactics.
Stuff like... (all from the bible)
the real 10 commandments, not the smashed ones,
God is love, that is why your god killed 42 kids because a couple of kids called a guy baldheaded
Jesus disciples bought and carried swords
Jesus kills pigs and is chased out of town, Jesus kills tree because it did not have a fig (they were out of season), he and his disciples steal grain/corn

ooohh there is soooo much there to play with. Poor Christians deconvert so fast, and they keep coming back to you.

Remember, you can deconvert more with the bible than with science. And the recovering religionists I have talked to have some of the best stories that affected them from the bible.

Have fun, share the bible ...

--Jack
http://jackrussell8888.blogspot.com/
 

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