Recovering from Religion


Recovering from Religion

Unless you were raised by atheist parents, you probably had some recovering to do when you left religion. The purpose of RR is to provide a landing place for people when they jump from religion. With local support groups throughout the US, Canada, UK, and Australia, and real-time resources accessible to everyone, RR is where to turn when faith has lost its luster.

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In what way are you still recovering from being brought up religious?

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Richard C Brown Aug 30. 57 Replies

I was brought up in a fundamentalist family.Anyone still dealing with any issues from religion?Do you fear the result of coming out Atheist to your family?Any thoughts are welcome.Continue

Catholic Family / Atheist Wedding - HELP

Started by Megan. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck May 31. 4 Replies

Any one else out there still recovering from Catholic guilt??I come from an extremely Catholic family/upbringing. In 6 days I will be the first person in my entire extended family not to marry a Catholic in a Catholic Church.My biggest source of…Continue

Anyone still deal with anything like this?

Started by Starland Victor Seay. Last reply by Matt Skaggs Aug 26, 2013. 27 Replies

One thing I have noticed is a tendency to "doubt" my new path in life. I still want to reach for the Bible sometimes. I still hesitate somewhat when someone mentions Pascal's "Wager"...LOL! Even though I know that science teaches this and that no…Continue

"Thief in the Night"

Started by cbenhamcox. Last reply by Luara Aug 18, 2013. 2 Replies

Last night I was reading Seth Andrew's book, Deconverted, and I almost fell out of my chair when he discussed being forced to watch the end times film from the 1970's call "A Thief in the Night."  He described some of the scenes, and I had a…Continue

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Comment by Darrel Ray on January 26, 2014 at 7:26pm

I will be talking to Seth on The Thinking Atheist Tuesday. Listen live, call in or listen later. I will be discussing shame and how religions use it to infect others and manipulate our behavior. Tune in.

Comment by Richard Goscicki on November 27, 2013 at 10:39am

<but early polytheistic religions had less problems than monotheist religions with sexual acts, Amun Ra apparently masturbated to create all life on earth. >>>

I think I can propose a plausible hypothesis for the above:

With the onset of agriculture also came private property and the ownership of land. So religion became more male dominated and patriarchal to insure smooth transition from one generation to the next.  Also came specialization of labor, first a police and/or army class to protect property, then a priest/lawyer/scribe class to ensure orderly generational transition.

My friend, Barbara Walker, devoted Man Made God to this theme, calling it a sad and tragic event in human history.  The transition from a female fertility Earth goddess to a patriarchal, militant, mafia-don God has not boded well for human happiness with war, avarice, strict hierarchy, and bully behavior some of the negative outcomes. 



Comment by Richard Goscicki on November 26, 2013 at 11:49am

<This is only one of the ways religion has hurt me. >>>

Good writing, Dyslexic. Most of us on this board can also cite some personal loss due to the church or religion in general. 

Here’s one way that hurts everyone in very quiet and sinister ways.  In my anthology of atheist essays I tell the story of how eccentric religious views blocked the development of anesthesia from helping to alleviate pain—especially in operations including childbirth.  Church officials, the Curia, must have believed that pain and sacrifice were pleasing to God and humankind must not contravene God’s divine will.  Ether was discovered by alchemists in the late twelve hundreds but not used until the late nineteenth.  All that suffering and misery went for naught.

In the same way, we’re all paying the price for this ignorance right now in the twenty-first century.  With suicides rates rising astronomically due to poverty and the overpopulation of baby boomers, the church is blocking the proliferation of legal euthanasia. That means that anyone who doesn’t want to continue suffering for whatever reason has to devise amateur and sometimes grotesque methods to end it. 

What a waste!  And all because of superstitious beliefs.



Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on November 26, 2013 at 6:12am

Just a thought on Jesus masturbating, well not a sight I would rush to witness, but early polytheistic religions had less problems than monotheist religions with sexual acts, Amun Ra apparently masturbated to create all life on earth. 

That's pretty much all I can remember of my studies into mythology during philosophy classes, some 30 years ago.  LOL

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on November 26, 2013 at 5:59am

I remember from a lecture by Robert Sapolsky, that humans are the only animal on Earth that seeks privacy for sexual acts.

Yet, one wonders why Christians seek privacy, when they are constantly being watched by their omni-voyeuristic megalomaniac  anyway.

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on November 26, 2013 at 5:51am

BTW: Excellent talk on Religion distorting Sexuality Darrel, my wife and I enjoyed it immensely.  We don't have the same depth of problems in Australia with Christianity as many states in the US, though even with almost minimal Christianity influence in our daily lives, social etiquette and the laws are still grossly effected by such irrationality.

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on November 26, 2013 at 5:29am

I had a very beautiful friend who approached me one time to help her with a very personal problem. She was from an extremely strict Catholic family who were friends with my own family.

She was struggling to tell me what her problem was, especially since we had our family members nearby, so she appeared desperate for some kind of help.

A couple of days later she committed suicide, apparently she was pregnant and never told her parents, she couldn't face them.

If she had asked me to pretend the child was my own and I intended to marry her, or even quickly get married so she would not be in shame and it could have saved her life, I would have.

This is only one of the ways religion has hurt me. 

Had her parents been more accepting of their children's sexuality and let her know that, as we brought up our own children, she would be alive today.

It has been 32 years since her suicide and I still remember the pain in her face as she tried to tell me, but her family grabbed her and she didn't get to tell me.

Another was how the Catholic church would not let an elderly woman return to England, because she left her large property to the Church in her will, of course they knew, they witnessed it. They knew that if she returned to England (where her only remaining relatives lived) she would sell her property and the church would not acquire it. So the church had her committed as mentally incapable of managing her own financial affairs and nominated themselves as being her trustees.  I used to give help her do her groceries and there was nothing psychologically wrong with her.  She even saved enough money for the trip to England and she caught a bus to the city to catch a flight to England and the church had her stopped. 

Yes, we are recovering from religion, for most of our lives, because it ruins nearly every life it touches in some way.

Directly or indirectly.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 25, 2013 at 7:46pm

That seems to me to be very good advice Joan.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 25, 2013 at 7:28pm

Spud, why on Earth would you even consider re-marriage at your age. I am 77, soon to turn a year older, and there is no way I would tangle up my life with a government sanctioned marriage. Live with your sweet heart, if you want to, have several sweet hearts if that is your style. Just keep the government out of it is my best advice. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 25, 2013 at 7:26pm

Darrel, you give the best description of religion and family violence I have heard. This information needs to be read and seen and heard in a far wider audience. Please post on Twitter, Facebook, and any other social network. Religion is the root of all family violence! I have no doubt about it! 

The population needs to hear about masturbation, but they need to understand family violence even more. Masturbation is a private event, usually; family violence involves the whole family, education, health delivery, laws and law enforcement and the religious community.

A huge big hug to you! 


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