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Recovering from Religion

Unless you were raised by atheist parents, you probably had some recovering to do when you left religion. The purpose of RR is to provide a landing place for people when they jump from religion. With local support groups throughout the US, Canada, UK, and Australia, and real-time resources accessible to everyone, RR is where to turn when faith has lost its luster.

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In what way are you still recovering from being brought up religious?

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Richard C Brown Aug 30. 57 Replies

I was brought up in a fundamentalist family.Anyone still dealing with any issues from religion?Do you fear the result of coming out Atheist to your family?Any thoughts are welcome.Continue

Catholic Family / Atheist Wedding - HELP

Started by Megan. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck May 31. 4 Replies

Any one else out there still recovering from Catholic guilt??I come from an extremely Catholic family/upbringing. In 6 days I will be the first person in my entire extended family not to marry a Catholic in a Catholic Church.My biggest source of…Continue

Anyone still deal with anything like this?

Started by Starland Victor Seay. Last reply by Matt Skaggs Aug 26, 2013. 27 Replies

One thing I have noticed is a tendency to "doubt" my new path in life. I still want to reach for the Bible sometimes. I still hesitate somewhat when someone mentions Pascal's "Wager"...LOL! Even though I know that science teaches this and that no…Continue

"Thief in the Night"

Started by cbenhamcox. Last reply by Luara Aug 18, 2013. 2 Replies

Last night I was reading Seth Andrew's book, Deconverted, and I almost fell out of my chair when he discussed being forced to watch the end times film from the 1970's call "A Thief in the Night."  He described some of the scenes, and I had a…Continue

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Comment by Shelby Fisher on June 24, 2010 at 1:00am
For me, these words are tricky. Trying to put a tag on how I behave or what I strive toward mixes me up, eventually. Thoughts, feelings, behaviors, everything- changes.
Spirituality means nothing for me, but I think I sometimes understand what some people mean by it.
Usually, to me, it seems to mean that someone tries to be aware of themselves, others, and the possibility of the unknown. Something like that.
If it helps someone then I support it and try to respect it. Sometimes the word makes my skin crawl.
Comment by Mriana on June 23, 2010 at 9:35pm
Well, I have to admit I spent some time letting go of adding words to humanism for the longest time myself, Fred. For a while, I said, "Religious humanist" then it was spiritual humanist and then one day I thought, CFI is full of humanists, secular or otherwise and Paul Kurtz even said he did not see the necessity of adding words to humanism, in an essay he wrote, for various reasons. See, CFI is involved with many things- the Jesus Seminar for example. Just because one is a humanist does not mean they do not do any critical analysis of religion. One can research and study everything and anything they want as a humanist. So the need to say more than "humanist" is not necessary. I'm not religious, even if I study religion and things related to religion- the psychology of religion. Being spiritual and having feelings of transcendence is part of being human. As Jeaneane Fowler said in her book "Humanism: Beliefs and Practices" she does not believe we can deny such feelings because they are part of the human condition. Humanism is all about the human condition, so any other words, to me, is superfluous.

That's just my POV. Take it for what it is worth.
Comment by Rudy Ruddell on June 23, 2010 at 8:28pm
I always learn something when I engage in discussions here because I usually have to Google something. Today I had to look up pietism and flow meditation.
Pietism, in a nutshell, means "be good." It means do the right thing that helps, not hinders rather than be ceremonious. I am not sure I see the connection to spiritualism except that when one does the right thing the lion's share of the time, one feels good about one's self most of the time, which is sort of an altered state of consciousness (a high), which I associate with spirituality.
Flow meditation is what I do when I get online and engage in atheist discussions on Facebook and Atheistnexus. Time flies while I am doing this activity. Per Wikipedia a flow meditation:
" state of concentration or complete absorption with the activity at hand and the situation. The idea of flow is identical to the feeling of being in the zone or in the groove. The flow state is an optimal state of intrinsic motivation, where the person is fully immersed in what he or she is doing. This is a feeling everyone has at times, characterized by a feeling of great absorption, engagement, fulfillment, and skill—and during which temporal concerns (time, food, ego-self, etc.) are typically ignored."
Most activities I perform I do so to accomplish something. What I am doing now, I do because I enjoy the process and I do not get paid for it.
Comment by Rudy Ruddell on June 22, 2010 at 8:40pm
Although I realize there is a secular definition of spirituality, I prefer to stay away from it when referring to myself because spirituality is much more often associated with religion than with atheism.

To me it seems spirituality is just having an altered state of consciousness that can be reached by fasting, nature walks, meditating, taking mushrooms or LSD, or even marijuana. If an altered state of consciousness can help you look at life in a different way than one is accustomed to without risking one's health, I am for it. That being said, I do not think spirituality is necessary for happiness. I don't think that the Buddhist monk achieve some higher level of existence by meditating. I think they just get high. I prefer a normal state of consciousness because I think best that way.
Comment by Mriana on June 22, 2010 at 5:55pm
In addition to what I said about pietistic, I think one is safer with the word "spiritual" because it doesn't conger up as many religious images, esp if a person has a broad knowledge of what it means to be spiritual. That's just my two cents.
Comment by Mriana on June 22, 2010 at 5:53pm
Fred,

To be honest, pietistic sounds to me like it means something of the priesthood and is related to the words "pious" and "pietism". Pietistic means 1. of or relating to Pietism 2a. of or relating to religious devotion or devout persons. b. marked by overly sentimental or emotional devotion to religion. Pietism also relates to religion and the Bible too, if you look it up in Webster's dictionary.

So even before I gave you the dictionary definition, I thought religion, specifically of the priesthood and those with strong devotion to religion and the Bible. Thus the word brings up religious symbols and alike.
Comment by Richard Goscicki on June 22, 2010 at 4:18pm
When you use the word spirituality what does it mean to you?>>>

I believe humans can become "spiritual" once we break out of the confines of organized religion and continue to evolve. Living in harmony with nature has a lot to do with it.

There are many examples of metaphysical behavior which occurs nowhere else in the natural world. Not only technology. Non-kindred altruism is very rare in nature but humans have charities and many ways of helping others they don't know.

Take language, for example. We get an impulse or idea in our brain. We then very intricately manipulate lip muscles to form words to express the idea. As we breath out, we vibrate air molecules which are funneled into our listeners ear lobe and then stimulate delicate hair membranes in the cochlea and organ of Corti. The vibrations reform meaningful ideas in the receivers brain.

Wow, to me that's spiritual.
Comment by Mriana on June 22, 2010 at 2:42am
I actually don't see anything wrong with spirituality. One doesn't have to have religion or a deity to be spiritual. One's experience with nature maybe one's spirituality. I'm talking more of a feeling than I am anything else and feelings of transcendence are very much a part of the human condition. It has nothing to do with worship or anything like that.
Comment by Mriana on June 22, 2010 at 2:28am
Well, I'm just waiting for him to figure it out.
Comment by Mriana on June 21, 2010 at 5:48pm
Fred Werther,

Well hopefully you find something that is satisfying for you and makes you happy. I find being a humanist is fairly compatible with my older son who ascribes to Buddhism. I have few issues with Buddhism, except for the reincarnation bit. My 21 y.o. son and I get along fairly well, which is good because he still lives with me. lol It wouldn't be good if we were at odds under those circumstances.
 

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