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Comment by Patricia on February 24, 2013 at 1:39pm

How can a person not be bigoted when we keep hearing/seeing crap like this? I don't hold much hope for humanity when these people insist on not being human.....& believe me.....I'm not comparing them to animals, because animals don't behave that way!!!

Comment by James M. Martin on February 24, 2013 at 8:46am

Joan, they don't need wife beatings in Christianity: all women are relegated to the status of Stepford Wives, and they are brainwashed into enjoying it.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 23, 2013 at 1:43pm

http://youtu.be/Y-Tw7WhH_aQ
Islam: How to beat your wife.
Thanks Critical Thinker.

Comment by kara on February 22, 2013 at 8:09am

@james

I understand very much what you say. I had and have seen through the dogma and in my personal life I've found a happy balance of secularism combined with seasonal celebration and a small amount of ritual but mostly just little quirks that I hope will become my own families traditions in years to come. I think my saddness in relation to the nativity thing is a sense of unfair loss of a sweet mother and daughter in joke that I had no idea I would be excluded from. I really had no idea how religious she was until I told her I wasn't.

@meddlesome
Now I'm hungry but I can't decide who looks tastiest :P

Comment by Meddlesome on February 22, 2013 at 5:25am

With all this talk of nativity scenes, I thought id add my favourite :)

Comment by GOD'aye on February 22, 2013 at 2:52am

This is why I never had my children's IQ tested, yet I'm certain they have a much higher IQ than I, especially my extremely high achieving daughter. Though I never pressured them to achieve, they did that all by themselves. Self discipline is the best discipline, something I couldn't develop in an environment where all discipline was external, I never developed it properly for myself.

Comment by GOD'aye on February 22, 2013 at 2:44am

Parents are Christians, Dad protestant and Mum catholic. At the age of 14 I used to have immense fun at school, stone fights, fishing, very little actual school work. Had lots of girls to choose from, life was excellent, came home grinning every day. Parents thought I was either evil or getting into drugs, so they took me to a big psychiatric clinic with a dozen psychiatrists who looked at me like a dog turd when I arrived and ignored me, until after my test. It was the highest they had measured and suddenly they all wanted to be my friend. My parents and teachers were suddenly hassling me about working harder at school work, the old story "You can be what ever you want to be". So they shipped me of to boarding school, so I could be what I wanted to be. When really all I wanted to be is. I wanted to be left alone. :@

Comment by GOD'aye on February 22, 2013 at 2:34am

I'm thinking I'm very lucky to be in a region where secularism rules. The worst experience in my life was having my IQ tested. It was the reason I was sent to a Christian boarding school. Though Christian boarding schools here are also moderate in that they accept all denominations and I had to go to church services, but they didn't specify which church. So I rotated between them all and even had supper at each one, without being confirmed in most. I ended up choosing the church with the prettiest choir girl and dated her for a while. So it wasn't all bad. Seeing it was a males only school.

Comment by James M. Martin on February 21, 2013 at 7:04pm

kara, I recall the first time I went to dinner at some friends who are like family to me in that I saw a lot of the wife's mother before she died of cancer.  When they found out I was and am an atheist, they still did the holding hands to say grace thingie.  I took the hands of those next to me but kept sneaking glances at the couple's youngest child, a smart girl of 11.  She was smiling at me.  I had to wonder, Is it possible she sees through all this dogmatic nonsense?

Comment by Patricia on February 21, 2013 at 2:11pm

I have to think of people like that as willfully ignorant, & they like it that way as they have no interest in learning anything else. Being our ''parent'' makes no difference......they still like to ostracize people in some ways, sneaky or not.

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