Recovering from Religion

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Recovering from Religion

Unless you were raised by atheist parents, you probably had some recovering to do when you left religion. The purpose of RR is to provide a landing place for people when they jump from religion. With local support groups throughout the US, Canada, UK, and Australia, and real-time resources accessible to everyone, RR is where to turn when faith has lost its luster.

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In what way are you still recovering from being brought up religious?

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Richard C Brown Aug 30. 57 Replies

I was brought up in a fundamentalist family.Anyone still dealing with any issues from religion?Do you fear the result of coming out Atheist to your family?Any thoughts are welcome.Continue

Catholic Family / Atheist Wedding - HELP

Started by Megan. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck May 31. 4 Replies

Any one else out there still recovering from Catholic guilt??I come from an extremely Catholic family/upbringing. In 6 days I will be the first person in my entire extended family not to marry a Catholic in a Catholic Church.My biggest source of…Continue

Anyone still deal with anything like this?

Started by Starland Victor Seay. Last reply by Matt Skaggs Aug 26, 2013. 27 Replies

One thing I have noticed is a tendency to "doubt" my new path in life. I still want to reach for the Bible sometimes. I still hesitate somewhat when someone mentions Pascal's "Wager"...LOL! Even though I know that science teaches this and that no…Continue

"Thief in the Night"

Started by cbenhamcox. Last reply by Luara Aug 18, 2013. 2 Replies

Last night I was reading Seth Andrew's book, Deconverted, and I almost fell out of my chair when he discussed being forced to watch the end times film from the 1970's call "A Thief in the Night."  He described some of the scenes, and I had a…Continue

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Comment by Alice on December 15, 2012 at 12:39am

I don't see Dawkins as being none compassionate here - he is simply stating the facts as he sees them.  I find his answer clear, honest and factual.  I think he deals with this situation excellently given his position and the setting.  He remains calm and respectful.  If what he says is cutting or hurtful for others then that is the cold hard facts of life - and Dawkins aims to provide some comfort when he says that he doesn't doubt that the man is sincere in his beliefs.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 15, 2012 at 12:12am

Kara, Dawkins can be pretty rough on believers, and rightly so. There was one tape, months ago, that was so wrenching; I wanted to see more compassion. Dawkins could have been more compassionate, even as he was correct in what he said. Dawkins sincerely responded honestly, and the poor old man withered at Dawkins words. I desire to be as clear as Dawkins and I suspect there is no way to do this kind of encounter any more gently.

What do you others think?

Richard Dawkins cruelly answers audience question

When it comes to being rude, abrasive, short, blunt, and intimidating, Religious seem to have these characteristics down pretty pat. So, I guess we just have to toughen up. 

Comment by Kara Ward on December 14, 2012 at 11:55pm

@Tabitha: Don't believe everything you hear about Dawkins; I think he's just the sweetest old man. 

I can't believe I'm Kara#2 here, and I also used to be Wiccan! This is going to get confusing... ;-)

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 14, 2012 at 11:53pm

So many people don't like Richard Dawkins because he says what is on his mind and you don't have to wonder what he means. He can be rude, abrasive, short, blunt. and intimidating. 

One of the things I like about him, he makes sense. To be confronted by him, one has to have a tough skin. Some just don't want to listen to someone as direct as he. He was abrupt with Rebecca and she is one tough lady. She was right in calling him on his attitude toward her and he should have seen her side. And I don't think he still does. With women such as Rebecca, we can see that she is not intimidated by him, she can stand up to him and come out of it stronger and respected by women such as I. 

P.Z Meyers recognizes the challenges facing women in the atheist movement and stood powerfully beside her, both in his public statements and in his writings. Meyers has my respect for that. 

I guess the trick is to develop a thick skin, get used to abrasive men and women from all points of view, and don't let your ego get in the way of what you believe. If another woman were to give the same speech as Rebecca, about sexism in the atheist movement, I hope more men and women will stand with her. It is most unusual for women to be vocal when confronted with such behaviors and attitudes and we will do better if we do stronger. 

Comment by Tabitha McCoy on December 14, 2012 at 10:48pm

@ Patricia and Kalliope Thanks :) Change and internal transformation do take time, though, so the best I can do is read everything I can get my hands on and think outside the box--get out of my comfort zone and always question everything. I'm just now starting to understand that.

@James I'll have to look into those novels...

Comment by James M. Martin on December 14, 2012 at 9:20pm

T Andrew, Freud wrote to debunk religious as mass delusion, and Jung wrote to claim that the UFO phenomenon was just as you say, a modern example of mass delusion.  One of my favorite writers on these things was the late Philip K. Dick, whose Valis Trilogy examined religion from different points of view.  One of the novels re-visited the disappearance, in the Holy Land, of the once-revered Episcopal bishop, Pike.  But the novel, VALIS, itself, is the shining masterpiece and one of the finest examples of imaginative fiction one could want.

Comment by Tabitha McCoy on December 14, 2012 at 3:23pm

And another thing...I hve this tendancy to cling to childish, almost delusional way of thinking. It's hard to let go of the belief in a soul, the whole god thing...how do I let it all go??

Comment by Tabitha McCoy on December 14, 2012 at 9:29am

@ Andrew Yeah! I think they just wnted to do something outside the norm of the regular religion, wanted to spice up a new religion to make themselves feel special. It really is quite ridiculous, and very sad. But hey, I've been there.

@Patricia Excellent! I will definitely look into those :) I've read a lot by Richard Dawkins, but I also hear he's kind of an arrogant jerk...I dunno. But thank you!!

@James Yes, it is sad...at least WE don't live in those kind of dark ages anymore. I'm glad we have the freedom to think for ourselves.

@Kara Welcome! I understand how you feel, and I know exactly where you are. I'm kinda in the same place right now. I hope you find some enlightening information here, as I already have :)

Comment by James M. Martin on December 13, 2012 at 10:19pm

I know about that, Tabitha, but the Church also confiscated the lands of "heretics."  We know that when Philip "le bel" of Spain began to feel threatened by the power and wealth of the Knights Templar, he contrived with the Pope to have them arrested and tried by the Inquisition. They were accused of worshiping the devil in the form of an hermaphroditic goat called Baphomet, a Byzantine plot contrived for purposes of a show trial.  Then the lands of the knights were divided up as spoils.  Sad, sad. 

Comment by kara on December 13, 2012 at 9:52pm

Hi I'm semi new, I've been a lurker for a while and just starting to get active. I have been on and off atheist for a long time my Father has always been atheist but my main caregiver my mother was very superstitious and religious as was my step father so I have been raised with very conflicting ideas. I have been through a spiritual phase which i would characterise as neo-pagan and historically inspired but I am entirely atheist and becoming comfortable with the peace that brings. so that's me can't wait to get to know some folks.

 

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