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Recovering from Religion

Unless you were raised by atheist parents, you probably had some recovering to do when you left religion. The purpose of RR is to provide a landing place for people when they jump from religion. With local support groups throughout the US, Canada, UK, and Australia, and real-time resources accessible to everyone, RR is where to turn when faith has lost its luster.

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In what way are you still recovering from being brought up religious?

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Richard C Brown Aug 30. 57 Replies

I was brought up in a fundamentalist family.Anyone still dealing with any issues from religion?Do you fear the result of coming out Atheist to your family?Any thoughts are welcome.Continue

Catholic Family / Atheist Wedding - HELP

Started by Megan. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck May 31. 4 Replies

Any one else out there still recovering from Catholic guilt??I come from an extremely Catholic family/upbringing. In 6 days I will be the first person in my entire extended family not to marry a Catholic in a Catholic Church.My biggest source of…Continue

Anyone still deal with anything like this?

Started by Starland Victor Seay. Last reply by Matt Skaggs Aug 26, 2013. 27 Replies

One thing I have noticed is a tendency to "doubt" my new path in life. I still want to reach for the Bible sometimes. I still hesitate somewhat when someone mentions Pascal's "Wager"...LOL! Even though I know that science teaches this and that no…Continue

"Thief in the Night"

Started by cbenhamcox. Last reply by Luara Aug 18, 2013. 2 Replies

Last night I was reading Seth Andrew's book, Deconverted, and I almost fell out of my chair when he discussed being forced to watch the end times film from the 1970's call "A Thief in the Night."  He described some of the scenes, and I had a…Continue

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Comment by T Andrew Klatt on December 13, 2012 at 10:10am

I appreciate Tabitha’s comments about Wicca, Gerald Gardiner and the “old religion.” I would add to this list Chares G. Leland’s Aradia or the Gospel of the Witches, a classic of amateur folklore collecting, that it is believed that Gardiner and other’s used in the creation of their “traditions.”

The Wicca, neo-pagan or neo-shamanistic movements just go to demonstrate (at least to my way of thinking) how we human beings go about creating religions. It is an interesting phenomenon to observe. The UFO/Alien abduction crowd is another perfect example of how humans seem to create false correlation out of unexplainable or misperceived events into religious or spiritual movements. 

Comment by Tabitha McCoy on December 13, 2012 at 9:10am

@Future Well, yeah it was like that. I grew up my whole life raised on the fact that there is a god. I've struggled since then, going back and forth saying, "Oh, there's no god--and it's fantastic! This universe came about naturally, and it's so beautiful!" Then going back to thinking, "Wait...what if there is a god? I'll burn in hell for what I've thought and done!" I have been raised my WHOLE LIFE around people who believe in god. Finally coming to the understanding that there really isn't a god or gods, it felt like there was a veil being lifted from over my eyes. I felt like I could see clearly, and life was beautiful, exactly the way it was. I felt angry for being lied to my whole life, too, but then I realized that my parents and grandparents believed for the very same reason I did--for fear of hell, and because they had been indoctrinated as a child.

@Patricia My mom would scream if she found out what I've been reading these past years. Then i moved in with my step mother--a very Christian woman--and she is much more lenient, and I can even have open conversation with her about my beliefs--or rather, my lack of.

@James People back in those days also used witchcraft accusations for political reasons--"My opponent is a witch!" and his opponent would be burned or hanged and that was that.

Comment by James M. Martin on December 11, 2012 at 11:06pm

And then, again, Tabitha, the Hebrews called them poisoners for the same reason that the Inquisition burned many "witches": they administered abortifacients.  Many of these had to be tinctures and such and might therefore be regarded as "poisonous" to the extent that they "killed babies." Narrow minded superstition was standard.

Comment by Future on December 11, 2012 at 10:06am

Then, I found atheism while browsing the web when i was 16

 

That's a very curious statement, Tabitha.  You make it sound like the lack of belief in god(s) is a concept that only arises when it is brought to one's attention from an outside source.  When I first heard the word "atheism", and found out what it meant, all it did for me was give a common name to what I already knew I was.  Believing in god(s) was just something that I could never honestly do, at any age.

Comment by Tabitha McCoy on December 11, 2012 at 9:26am

Hahaha! The Wiccans that say they have ancestors from the old days are full of it. Witches and pagans in the old days were wiped out, and then Gerald Gardner, a British civil servant, came over seas and basically reinvented the pagan religion of old and renamed it "Wicca". (There has been much dispute over where this word came from...some say it means "Witch" others say it means "wise"...I have no idea)

But yeah, long story short, Wicca was BASED on the "Old Religion". I don't know what percentage of it is actually really and truly connected to ancient religions. I'm pretty sure the Old Religion had a lot of animal and/or human sacrifice involved.

And I'm not sure about Hebrew witches...maybe they did, they just called them something else. Maybe they were classified as poisoners.

Comment by James M. Martin on December 10, 2012 at 10:58pm

Thank you, too, Tabitha, for the note on mistranslation.  Wiccans I have known said that their ancestors invoked the elements to raise the storm that destroyed the Spanish Armada. If there was no Hebrew word for witch does that mean the Hebrews had no witches?  "Poisoner" kind of changes the scenario a bit. 

Comment by Tabitha McCoy on December 10, 2012 at 9:54am

Why thank you, James! I do love my feline name. And actually, the verse in the "booble" (that made me giggle) that you referenced was actually mistranslated. There was no Hebrew word for "witch" at that time, and it was actually "poisoner". King James (III?) altered it for his own gain.

And yeah, Paganism is as "good" as Christianity, whereas both are full of ancient myths and give some a feel-good (maybe not Christianity so much) feelings for an emotional security blanket.

Comment by James M. Martin on December 9, 2012 at 9:55pm

Tabitha (she of the name some give to felines), at least the pagans had the sense to avoid solar phallic male domination.  You see references to, e.g. Attis as pagan basis for the Death and Resurrection myth of "Jesus."  Actually, the religion was feminine and probably Moon-focused.  The Priests of Cybele, the Galli, were so extreme in their asceticism they self-emasculated thinking this would forever rid their minds of "unclean" thoughts.  Paganism is as good as Christianity, which is why it is denounced in the Booble ("suffer not a witch to live") and by clergy from the Inquisition to modern Vatican City.

Comment by Tabitha McCoy on December 9, 2012 at 9:08pm

What happened with Richard Dawkins and this Rebecca lady?? (lol sorry, new here and I saw the comments here and I was curious)

I'm Tabby, by way :) I was raised in a Christian household; I was terrified of burning for hell if I wasn't a "good Christian girl" for the longest time. Then I found Wicca/Paganism, and I went back and forth between that and Christianity for a long time (I was 12 or 13, and my family told me I would go to hell for practicing Witchcraft). Then, I found atheism while browsing the web when i was 16, and since then I'd been going back and forth between atheism and paganism since then. I think I'm starting to recover now though.

Comment by Mary O'Grady on October 26, 2012 at 7:52pm

I find the tone of Dawkins's comment demeaning and I think his intention was to humiliate. There are plenty of other atheist scholars to whom I can give my attention.

 

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