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Comment by Tally Cass on July 1, 2012 at 11:01am

Hi everyone, 

There's a new rr group in Portland Oregon.  Go to www.facebook.com/rr.portland

Comment by Intrinsic Dignity on June 28, 2012 at 10:51am

Can anyone relate to my experience, which I illustrated in this metaphorical animation?

Comment by dr kellie on June 26, 2012 at 11:50am

I love my chainsaw:) 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 26, 2012 at 11:46am

"Anger is a useful but dangerous tool."

Yes, kind of like a chain saw. 

Comment by Pamela Dale on June 26, 2012 at 10:11am

I grew up angry about a great many things.  It helped me get out of a very bad environment but like a double-edge sword, it also hurt me.  When I finally discovered about the truth of religions I was not angry, I think it was because I suspected that God and religion was false for a long time because of my hard life. I think my reaction was a great sadness to know that we are here alone and there was no real reason for my suffering.  Now I am looking for the contentment in the truth of my existence in a world without an equalizer. Anger is a useful but dangerous tool.  Be careful with your anger, it can burn away the dross but the heat can also prevent you from seeing the seeds of truth.

Comment by Meddlesome on June 26, 2012 at 2:36am

Im seeing a lot of anger in recent posts here, while I would say that it is right to feel this, I would like to also point out that we should also be happy that we are no longer propagating the cause of this anger. I know for myself, that when i recognised the lie of religion I was angry, But for the first time I was at peace with myself.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 26, 2012 at 2:14am

dr kellie  I felt a sense of anger in myself, reading your comment. So many unsaid things I didn't say to my grandmother. I don't mean to imply there is her spirit I can talk to, but talk to my memories; she is so alive in my memories and I often come to a realization of how hard her life was, what with a wood stove for cooking, her garden, doing laundry over boiling water on a hot stove in summer, cutting kindling and building a fire, ice blocks in a wooden ice chest, the outhouse that stunck as back as the chicken yard. The wonderful meals, pies, cakes, cookies, fried chicken, even homemade ice cream in summer. I took her for granted and didn't realize how hard it was for her to put a meal on the table day after day. And keep us clean, and changing sheets, washing them in that boiling tub on the stove; the wringing out the hot water was the miserable part.  Her kitchen always smelled of Purex on laundry day.

Thanks for the memories!

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 26, 2012 at 2:02am

Tomlyn McAllister I like your comment, especially about vicarious redemption being a corruption of systemic religious practices. You state it so strongly, I repeat it here:

"And that is the whole problem with the Christian concept of vicarious redemption. The totally immoral concept that you can be absolved of all transgressions and wrongdoings through the absolution from someone other than he to whom you have transgressed. That you can be absolved of all your sins by believing that someone else has suffered your obligation for you is morally obscene...and is the central core of Christian doctrine.

~ Tomlyn McAllister

Comment by dr kellie on June 25, 2012 at 5:37pm

I'm angry too.  I would have probably gotten over it by now if I didn't have to be bombarded with so much bullshit almost every day.  I'm irritated by the sheer insanity of religion, and I'm also livid in regard to the shaming of women and sex in general.  And I remember being young and thinking about my atheist grandmother in hell.  Many tears were shed over that nonsense. 

 

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 25, 2012 at 5:09pm

Darrel, very wise counsel! Realizing anger is a necessary and not sufficient stage of growth, it does get a bit tiresome. I look to the day when I can read, hear, or see some evidence of abuse and not have such a knee-jerk reaction. Thanks for the encouragement. 

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