Recovering from Religion

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Recovering from Religion

Unless you were raised by atheist parents, you probably had some recovering to do when you left religion. The purpose of RR is to provide a landing place for people when they jump from religion. With local support groups throughout the US, Canada, UK, and Australia, and real-time resources accessible to everyone, RR is where to turn when faith has lost its luster.

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In what way are you still recovering from being brought up religious?

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Richard C Brown 9 hours ago. 57 Replies

I was brought up in a fundamentalist family.Anyone still dealing with any issues from religion?Do you fear the result of coming out Atheist to your family?Any thoughts are welcome.Continue

Catholic Family / Atheist Wedding - HELP

Started by Megan. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck May 31. 4 Replies

Any one else out there still recovering from Catholic guilt??I come from an extremely Catholic family/upbringing. In 6 days I will be the first person in my entire extended family not to marry a Catholic in a Catholic Church.My biggest source of…Continue

Anyone still deal with anything like this?

Started by Starland Victor Seay. Last reply by Matt Skaggs Aug 26, 2013. 27 Replies

One thing I have noticed is a tendency to "doubt" my new path in life. I still want to reach for the Bible sometimes. I still hesitate somewhat when someone mentions Pascal's "Wager"...LOL! Even though I know that science teaches this and that no…Continue

"Thief in the Night"

Started by cbenhamcox. Last reply by Luara Aug 18, 2013. 2 Replies

Last night I was reading Seth Andrew's book, Deconverted, and I almost fell out of my chair when he discussed being forced to watch the end times film from the 1970's call "A Thief in the Night."  He described some of the scenes, and I had a…Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 21, 2012 at 3:21am

@Providence, there is a principle in child rearing some call the "dock" theory. As children mature, they ventures farther and farther away from the security and safety of mom and dad, metaphorically the dock. A toddler will toddle away from them, get anxious because of being in unfamiliar territory, and scamper back to the safe place. As confidence grows and they get older, distance away becomes greater, and they even go into another room. Unfamiliarity produces anxiety and they run back. As adolescence approaches, they joins peer groups and experiment with other things, read forbidden books, wear inappropriate clothes, putt on make-up, smoke ... stuff like that. Something happens to cause fear and anxiety and they run back into the safe zone.
Reaching toward maturity, they may drive too fast, or do things that are not allowed by parents and they become insecure and run back to the safety of the parent/dock. Because of their age, size, and immaturity, they take even greater risks, get anxious and run home to parent/dock and sometimes overwhelm parent and the dock shakes, producing more anxiety. Driving and sex turn even the most sensible parents into quivering jello. 
This process of adventuring away from parent/dock and running back for safety is a "swinging door" that continues until a child develops independent, self-sufficient, mature, adult feelings, attitudes and behaviors. This learning process occurs when people move away from traditions of family and community and begin to think critically for themselves. This is called "growing up". 
Your insecurity is normal, a good thing, not to be feared or fought against, but is evidence you need to develop skills that build self-esteem and confidence.  That is done by listening to your own body and thoughts, taking with people you trust and who have your interest in mind. 
Some individuals have a harder time making these transitions than others, but trust the process, it will get you through to the last stage, if you are lucky, which is the generative stage ... people such as myself, 76 years old and very happily going into the dottering age of growing dependence on my children. 

Comment by Alice on May 21, 2012 at 2:35am

@providence - it's all about habits.  I would suggest that you speak with like minded people - start a discussion about this - and then go through all your fears - and get everyone's perspective - and keep doing this - talking - until your perspective shifts and you develop different ways of viewing the world.  It's about challenging your beliefs with the support of others who also care about your well-being.  You might want to also spend some time reading some books about this stuff - so books by Harris, Dawkins, Hawking, Hitchens, Dennett - or websites such as Naturalism.org - to give you some insights and different perspectives. :)

Comment by Tanya Higgins on May 20, 2012 at 8:08pm
@Providence Chances are good that you run back to religion when you're stressed simply because you haven't yet acquired healthy coping mechanisms. Asserting God as the only means for followers to dimish anxiety is one very powerful way that religion keeps people trapped. If you put leg braces on healthy children, the child that removes the braces as an adult will have difficulty standing simply because they never developed the muscles to do so.

Oddly enough, information available to those recovering from addiction is a good place to find help developing healthy coping mechanisms, but please keep in mind that you may also need counseling until you're able to put those mechanisms into practice.
Comment by James M. Martin on May 20, 2012 at 5:26pm

@Viking, your comment reminds me of the surreal scene in Henry Miller's novel, Tropic of Cancer, in which he depicts high ranking clerics at a banquet.  The elegant waiter brings in a steaming silver platter and places it before the clerics, lifting the lid with great flourish, and smiling as the cardinals and archbishops look down to see the evening entre: a big pile of steaming turds.

Comment by Viking on May 20, 2012 at 4:07pm

My Friend,

Look it this way. I became an atheist when I was still in the first or second grade of elementary school. I was then an altar boy in Poland in catholic church. When I was wasting my playtime on the knees and holding my urine to the limit, because I could not go to the boys-room I begun to think about all this crap. I realized, that this crap is nothing better then a crap. I was still attending the church, but only under my mother supervision. Then, when in the school program we learn more about science there was no return for me. 

My Friend, I don't know how old you are but, when you start questioning existence of god, this becomes a reason for it. Then is only your own choice to eat the stinky meat farther or take an other menu. Bad meat can kill you.  I suggest you to take a vacation and go on a tour and see, how beautiful this planet is. Their is not, never was and never will be a intelligent power to be able to control entire universe or maybe (very possible) universes. 

Get your vacation, go to Las Vegas and I will give you a little discount on my tours. 

BTW, I have a discount for all atheists on my tours. Just enter this code ATH666 when making a reservations at:

www.FlagaToursAndCharters.com

Comment by Providence on May 20, 2012 at 3:26pm

Hi everyone, 

I haven't posted on here for sometime- It's good to be back! 

Would it be ok to run something by you all.... I have been an Atheist for about a year or so. (maybe more- it's hard to be exact as there was a lot of coming out and running back to the church when I first started to question things!)

But sometimes I still feel intuitively that god is real, when i pick up the Bible it feels 'true' when I sit and read it. This sounds really strange i know because I know the arguments as to why the Bible cannot be the word of god and heck what do we mean by god anyway?! (I am also aware of the fact that to some extent my reaction to the bible, etc is a learned one!)

Yet I still worry, It's often when i feel uncertain about life or I become afraid of hell that I will run back to reading religious material and pray or whatever. I also get the really strong feeling that I want to go to church and that I (somehow) 'know' god is real but am denying it. 

I know all of this is total crap and I dont think about this when I am feeling fine (i.e confident of myself and my views) but can't understand why these urges are so strong in me when I experience them (i.e when I am uncertain?) and quite why i get them when I know all of this it total crap?? Does anyone else hear where i'm coming from?

I'd really appreciate your responses! 

Thank you in advance! :)

Comment by Selina Mannion on May 7, 2012 at 7:43am

@alice you could double dip and use the same article for  my book as the other book. If you type it, I can do  all the editing.  Thanx you can message me here or email me at sa-mannion@wiu.edu

Comment by Alice on May 7, 2012 at 12:10am

I grew up in an Indian cult - I might get some time to contribute - I'm currently working on my own book - and have also promised to contribute to another book - stories about how we came to be atheists...  So keep me in touch - and I might get some time to do something - also it's more easy if you can edit.... I can knock out 40,000 words in a weekend if I don't need to edit! :)

Comment by Selina Mannion on May 6, 2012 at 9:39pm

@ dan I love that question. I have a problem with all religions, not just islam. Islam, judaism, and christianity are very similar. Almost all the claims against Islam apply to them. I am trying to reach a wide audience. I am trying to show people life is so much better without religion. also only 1% of the united states is muslim, so that would make my audience that much narrower.

Comment by Dan DeMura on May 6, 2012 at 6:55pm

Selina... because your story is from Muslim background would you not be able to write the book written for other Muslims on the fence of non-belief? Do you really need to make it a book of stories from many faiths?

 

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