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Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Tomgram: Engelhardt, The Age of Impunity

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius 2 hours ago. 4 Replies

TomDispatch  http://t.co/nKYjnph4Ke"For America’s national security state, this is the age of impunity.  …Continue

Why we're headed for another Great Crash

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 2. 1 Reply

Thom Hartmann makes a case that we're driving the economy to another Great Crash.The denial of fundamental economic principles is setting the world up for another Great Crash.... corporate banks have ... discovered that instead of lending money to…Continue

Tags: financialization

Climate Politics of US State Governors

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Casey Pittman Jul 3. 1 Reply

Is the governor of your state suckling at the fossil fuel industry teat, while climate disasters whack citizens? As a Pennsylvanian, I'm ashamed to say mine is.... over 77 percent of all oil and gas contributions are being funneled to governors who…Continue

Tags: , , Extreme weather disasters, Change, Climate, State Governors

Tipping points of class and climate

Started by Joan Denoo Jul 1. 0 Replies

I don't know the history of the influences creating a World War I, other than cultures deeply divided by class. The wealthy were born to entitlement that the poor were not. I wonder what were the cause of unrest. The settlement, …Continue

Tags: Third, class, World, cheap, labor

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Comment by James M. Martin 10 hours ago

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner 10 hours ago

Rick Perry's Immigration meeting with President Obama

Great quote, Loren.

Comment by Joan Denoo on Wednesday

AronRa has a way with words. His link-up to form the tour, ANTI-THEISM: “The Unholy Trinity Tour”, including AronRa, Matt Dillahunty and Seth Andrews, make a formidable trinity.

I'm reposting AronRa's gen on Twitter. 

Comment by Loren Miller on Wednesday

Another gem from the mind of AronRa:

Comment by Joan Denoo on Tuesday

Tom, of course you are correct in your comments and to be blind to history has no utility. My uncle, a superior court judge, stated that only landowners should have the vote. I was outraged by that statement. At that time, 40 years ago, I was not able to own property unless and until I had a father, husband or son who could co-sign. And what about the black slaves that built our wonderful federal buildings, and even Monticello; they had no right to vote. Can;t forget how they perceived the native population. So, my overstatement deserves to be challenged. 

That said, the safety nets that came after the Great Depression and WW II give protection and rights to working people. Those have been dismantled, piece by piece, over time. An erosion that is now at such a state that people have to grow up, stop being dependent on protections that are not there, and become part of the rebellion. 

So, this con+spire concept, breath+with, is an energy that is growing as people experience the hardships created by those who do not value work and build their values on accumulation of wealth. 

Thanks, dear friend, for the enlightened response. 

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on Tuesday

USA has been invaded by oligarchs and the people have allowed it to happen, even encouraged it.

Joan, prepare to be not disillusioned, but illusioned more accurately.

The oligarchs were here at America's founding. Here are a few of the words that two of them spoke during the 1787 Constitutional Convention.

Alexander Hamilton on June 18:

The people are turbulent and changing; they seldom judge or determine right. Give therefore to the rich and well-born a distinct and permanent share in the government. They will check the unsteadiness of the mass of the people, and as they cannot receive any advantage by a change, they therefore will ever maintain good government.

And James Madison on June 26:

In framing a system we wish to last for ages, we should not lose sight of the changes the ages will bring. An increase of population will increase the proportion who labor under all the hardships of life and secretly sigh for a more equal distribution of its blessings. These may in time outnumber those who are placed above feelings of indigence. According to the equal laws of suffrage, the power will slide into the hands of the former. ... Landholders ought to have a share in the government, to support these invaluable interests and check the other. It ought to be formed as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority.

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For more, a whole lot more, read James Loewen's Lies My Teacher Told Me or the better-known  Howard Zinn's A Peoples History....

If you want to wade into the deep water, James Madison's Records of the 1787 Federal Convention  are on line. I have only minutes to write just now, but if you say you want to look at them I will find their URL's.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 8, 2014 at 8:11am

Grinning Cat, this is indeed good news. What do these countries tell us? 

USA has been invaded by oligarchs and the people have allowed it to happen, even encouraged it. The christian, obedient, submissive, docile population sat in front of tv sets watching reality tv while our forests were cut, our soils were contaminated, our air polluted and the people just sat, drank their beer and pop and ate sugar/fat foods pumped out babies as fast as they could incubate, and got lazy, fat, and spoiled rotten.

Well, oligarchs, there is a conspiracy rising from the depths of our spirited founding fathers and mothers and the pot is beginning to steam. USA lost primacy because we stopped being courageous, inquisitive, exploratory, inventive, and we forgot how to work hard. We enjoy the benefits of other people's thinking and action. 

We raise up a gaggle of youngin's who expect to have all the electrical gadgets that previous generations invented, they think the Earth owes them a living even as we may have reached the tipping point for survival of living things because of our mismanagement of our rich resources. 

We have the same sun as Australia, Germany, England and all the other countries that have gone solar. Our dear, loving, caring oligarchs have prevented leaving fossil fuels behind, they even don't want new technology in to impose on their domain. 

There is a man and woman in north Idaho who have invented a highway that produces energy! Can you imagine such a thing. I used to call them lunatics. Well, we need more of those lunatics to rise up and make things happen. 

Solar Roadways

Comment by Grinning Cat on July 8, 2014 at 1:17am

That is good news about solar power!

Related, from Australia: "Solar has won. Even if coal were free to burn, power stations couldn't compete" (The Guardian)

"Last week, for the first time in memory, the wholesale price of electricity in Queensland fell into negative territory – in the middle of the day.... Prices were deflated throughout the week, largely because of the influence of one of the newest, biggest power stations in the state – rooftop solar."

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 8, 2014 at 12:50am

Loren, The Koch Brothers do what they do best, propagandize their goods and reputations. They buy their way into respectability, ignoring the costs to the environment or impacts on people's lives. They need to be held accountable for the exploitation of workers around the globe, the manipulation of our government, and I am too tired to continue my rant. That will give me something to do tomorrow. 

Meanwhile, have you noticed the beautiful news coming out of countries that are going solar and other green ways of doing things? 

"Germany generated over half its electricity demand from solar for the first time ever on 9 June, and the UK, basking in the sunniest weather of summer during the longest days of the year, nearly doubled its 2013 peak solar power output at the solstice weekend.

"France, Italy, Denmark and other countries are also believed to have generated record amounts in June."

If we could just get the pubic to realize the oil industries and Koch Brothers tell lies and manufacture propaganda that is against our self-interest, we might get somewhere. 

The notion of bringing more fossil fuel onto the markets, and burning more of that lethal stuff creating more CO2, is ludicrous. Cap and trade is no solution, it is a way for the wealthy to continue to have benefits from an energy source that needs to end. 

UK and Germany break solar power records

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 8, 2014 at 12:01am

Grinning Cat, you stated it exactly as I think it. An individual's health care plan is private and not to be influenced by the employer. To do so is like the old days when employers could discriminate against women and men considered too old to get a job, or against homosexuals, or, as in the earlier days, married women could not get teaching jobs. Such discrimination is just plain bigotry. The color of skin, the age of the person, sexual orientation and marital status is none of the business of employers, and certainly, women denied access to total health care is outrageous. Pinching bottoms, squeezing breasts, and denying total health care for women are events long out of date.  

 
 
 

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