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Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Greta Christina: Why Being Liberal Really Is Better Than Being Conservative

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Joan Denoo 4 hours ago. 9 Replies

Worth a read! Greta Christina explains philosopher Rebecca Goldstein's observation on a fundamental difference between "liberal" and "conservative" core values, and why things aren't as simple as "agreeing to disagree" between two "equally valid"…Continue

Tags: purity, democracy, loyalty, authority, avoidance of harm

You Can't Educate People Into Believing in Evolution

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 1. 4 Replies

"Hill found that religious belief was the strongest determinant of people's views on evolution—much more so than education, socioeconomic status, age, political views, or region of the country. More importantly, "Creationists are substantially more…Continue

Tags: confront, evolution, creationism, beliefs

Karen Armstrong is dangerous

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sheeva Nov 25. 17 Replies

"Karen Armstrong is dangerous. She’s dangerous because her blanket of tedious verbiage hides the truth that she wants us to completely ignore the dangers of religious dogma.  It appears that for her, there is no harmful dogma that can be pinned on…Continue

Tags: oppression, nihilism, politics, religious dogma, Karen Armstrong

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Comment by Joan Denoo on December 9, 2014 at 2:38pm

So many gods! So many predictions! So many admonitions! So many things to fear! Hope in this system continues ephemeral. There exist so many ways to fail, and cheap grace if I accept the correct premises.   

Refuting the existence of a god or gods leaves me free to explore and experiment with ideas formerly forbidden. I can observe, then formulate a new hypotheses when new evidence reveals itself.

Ideas exist as living things, ebbing and flowing with the tide of observed evidence.  Ideas cannot evolve if ancient beliefs prevent seeing change. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 9, 2014 at 2:20pm

James, I will not hold my breath, either. 

Comment by James M. Martin on December 9, 2014 at 12:46pm

@Joan, as you know, Oppenheimer was referring to Shiva, who, in Hindu mythology, dances the earth into existence, then dances it into oblivion. But Hindu mythology is cyclical, and after the Kali Yuga (age of Kali, another destroyer) a New Age will be born. I wouldn't hold my breath.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 8, 2014 at 5:20pm

The Economic Collapse Warning Sign You Need To Know.

A Libertarian who sees the world through different lenses than I, gives a warning of economic collapse that I share.

Comment by Grinning Cat on December 7, 2014 at 9:10pm

On another note -- a "ha ha only serious" take on a lot of apparent U.S. foreign policy:

(My introduction to Key and Peele was their 2012 video "Obama's Meeting with Republicans".)

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 7, 2014 at 1:03pm

@James - NIetzsche did also warn us against blindly giving to science the same kind of worship we formerly gave to religion. He definitely harbored no thought that rationality in and of itself is sufficient to guide the species into an ideal future.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 7, 2014 at 2:31am

James, I wrote a response to your comment on Thursday: "Joan didn't Eisler write a book about sexual politics in pagan pasts."

Her first book, Chalice and the Blade powerfully stated the role of dominator cultures clutching control of the society, using religion as a tool to enforce their dogma. 

She has a personal history about her beginning her search to understand the Nazis phenomena: 

Chalice or the Blade Preview

She also wrote an insightful book, Sacred Pleasure: Sex, Myth, and the Politics of the Body--New Paths...

She writes of a paradigm shift of new ways of being in a relationship, the value to individuals and society. 

The Power of Partnership

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 7, 2014 at 2:16am

The New Prometheus, the scientist, rejecting god and submission to any domineering element in life. What was the famous quote? 

I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.

J. Robert Oppenheimer

Yes, destroyer of worlds is one possibility. Is it not also possible for the New Prometheus to be life-giving, nurturing, invigorating, enriching? I know the powerful will defeat the gentle in the physical sense of the word. Would not emotional strength have some influence on the outcome? Courage, stamina, sustaining, determination, endurance, energy, will, drive, vision, persistence count for something? 


Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jrobertop101189.html#ug8...

Comment by James M. Martin on December 6, 2014 at 9:01pm
Finally, Joan, consider also that Percy Bysshe, her husband, was throttled out of the family home by his irate father upon the patriarch's learning his son was an atheist. Some of that had to have influenced Mary.
Comment by James M. Martin on December 6, 2014 at 8:57pm

Not to forget, Joan, Ms. Well Stoned Crafty subtitled the book, "The New Prometheus." Now, I know this was with reference to Dr. Frankenstein himself. He represents to me, not God creating woman but a man of science playing God. He is Faust. He is Christopher Marlowe. When we throw off the shackles of dogma and follow science we become our own Gods. That was Nietzsche's point as well.

 
 
 

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