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Parenting Little Heathens

Atheists don't have a lot of parenting resources that speak directly to them. Come chat about all things parenting here.

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Discussion Forum

Protecting oxygen-deprived newborns

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 11. 0 Replies

Cooling protects oxygen-deprived infantsWe always fear our newborn being temporarily deprived…Continue

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Breastfeeding moms need 5,000 - 6,000 IU of D per day

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jun 21. 0 Replies

Vitamin D and the nursing motherHuman milk, in most nursing mothers, contains very little vitamin D. Infant…Continue

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Nursing mothers need 5,000-6,000 IU of vitamin D

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jun 8. 0 Replies

Vitamin D and the nursing motherAn "adequate" intake for nursing mothers is not the 400 IU/d the IOM…Continue

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Healthy diet bfore pregnancy and preterm birth

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner May 24. 0 Replies

Poor diet before pregnancy linked with preterm birthWomen who ate more protein and fruit before pregnancy…Continue

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Don't tell kids they're too fat

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 29. 0 Replies

Stop Calling Young Girls ‘Fat’Encouraging fitness activities and…Continue

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Brain injuries during youth sports can predispose for homelessness

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 26. 0 Replies

A traumatic brain injury sustained in childhood or early teenage years could predispose someone to homelessness as an adult.Dr. Topolovec-Vranic looked at data on 111 homeless men aged 27 to 81 years…Continue

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Don't let kids under four cry it out

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Annie Thomas Apr 23. 1 Reply

Four in 10 infants lack strong parental attachmentsWhen parents feel too overwhelmed to soothe crying…Continue

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Parenting Teen Drivers

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 20. 0 Replies

If you have teenaged drivers, share this.Teen drivers were six times more likely to have a serious incident when there was loud conversation in the vehicle — to the point of needing to make an…Continue

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Lied-to kids are more dishonest

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 21. 0 Replies

Lied-to children more likely to cheat, lieMost parents admit to lying to their children sometimes, while…Continue

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Toxic Products at local stores

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 16. 0 Replies

Healthy Stuff. org tests products and informs the public. Check their Retail Center for stores you use.…Continue

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Comment by Wendy on June 1, 2009 at 1:20pm
good FSM you're basing your entire opinion on ONE anecdote? The "off the books" business probably helps/

One story doesn't cut it for me. Sweet weeping jebus you're the type of person that would probably say "any mother could be a SAHM if she REALLY wanted to"

whatever there's no making you believe that just because one, two or even THREE people could do that doesn't mean that ALL can. There are so many extenuating circumstances it's hard to start.

and AGAIN since this is a PARENTING FORUM, one would assume we're talking about PARENTS going to school. Got a story about THAT one?
Comment by Angie Jackson on June 1, 2009 at 12:41pm
Here's a great factually-based article from Forbes.com on the decreasing ROI (return on investment for the non-business folks out there) of a college education. It was published earlier this year and I read it in the paper edition in my former job as the #3 executive within my company (with no college degree, funnily enough).
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0202/060.html
Comment by Robyn on June 1, 2009 at 9:17am
Wendy, you're spot on with the EFC. I couldn't get any financial aid (including loans) because my family owned land for farming. My parents' income was too high for grants and the land was a huge asset on the balance sheet. A financial aid counselor from my state university actually told my dad to sell land to pay for college. Nevermind that by selling land and therefore decreasing income, I'd be more likely to qualify for free aid. (talk about mind boggling) I was fortunate to come from a family that could and would contribute to my college education and didn't have to rely on loans or grants. But I have nothing buy sympathy for those that have the desire to go to college, but not the means. It's tough. I wish there was an easier way.
Comment by Wendy on June 1, 2009 at 9:00am
I thought we were talking about people who are parents?
Comment by Wendy on June 1, 2009 at 9:00am
one more thing...when was your experience with this? Recently or in the past. The reign of Bush the II made it MUCH harder to get a secondary education
Comment by Wendy on June 1, 2009 at 8:59am
Again I ask---what's your authority on this? Do you know the minimum income needed to get financial aid? Hey guess what. NO ONES DOES. You fill out a FAFSA and wait. You might get a grant you might not. And then there's that little thing called EFC (expected family contribution). If you have family they can contribute, EVEN IF THEY WON'T, that'll be taken into account for your income.

grants are dolled out on financial need, and the money runs out WAY before everyone who has that financial need is taken care of. Most Pell awards go to families who make $20000 or less. So a HUGE section of the population is left out. So what's their other option...loans. And you're LUCKY if that covers tuition, much less other stuff. And I do believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) credit scores are taken into account before the amount is given

I HATE this. It makes people who have tried to better their lives but cant' go to school seem lazy. oh you haven't TRIED. What do you know, it's not always that easy
Comment by Brenda on June 1, 2009 at 8:12am
I agree with Wendy. It is one thing to go $40-60K in debt when you are young and don't have dependents. But if you are raising children and no longer a spring chicken, it almost seems financially irresponsible to take on such debt, without the support of extended family, and especially in this economy.

College degrees are NOT a guarentee of good paying employment, that is for certain. It is a great advantage for young people looking for first time jobs, but I think experience far outweighs education when you get older, at least for liberal arts majors like me.

On the other hand, we all hear about stories of people overcoming extraordinary personal stuggles. It is possible, but there are many risks involved, I don't begrudge anyone for not wanting to assume such risks. Rags to riches dreams require determination, focus, ability, and some luck.
Comment by Wendy on June 1, 2009 at 7:51am
oooh I'm gonna have to break reality here. Money is ALWAYS the issue. Student loans have not and will not EVER cover the cost of college. When was the last time you checked out tuition? A state university will cost you at MINIMUM $10000k/year. Add in books, daycare or babysitting if you're a parent, etc etc etc.

To think that money just an obstacle that anyone can overcome in regards to college is rather elitist thinking
Comment by Angie Jackson on May 31, 2009 at 10:36am
I started college at 21, got pregnant, got married, chose to stay home with my son (and you know, do things like EAT and keep him in cloth diapers) and then went back when he turned 2. Went for another two semesters, racked up huge debt paying for tuition, books, and childcare, then got a really good job, dropped out of college, and just got laid off in February. And now I can't afford to go back to school. I've "chosen" college multiple times. I expect I'll have my bachelors before I'm 40, but possibly not much before then. And no, I wasn't a sanitation worker. I was an executive for an education company, managing three teams of people producing online professional development training courses for people who already had gone to college. Oh, and my CEO (one of the brightest guys I've ever met, although a prick) couldn't afford to graduate college either.
Comment by Bob on May 31, 2009 at 10:26am
I think we have a "Caste System" or class system in America just like anywhere else. Some people can move between classes, but its not that easy to do. I wanted post high school education badly and was willing to do whatever it took to get it. I joined the Army, got $20,000 for college in just 2 years service. Since I came from a family with no support of any kind, I wound up using college to learn what I should of learned in High School. I also spent more time in college because I had no idea what I wanted to major in.

Those kinds of issues are common for many college students. Usually the kids from the higher classes did better than people like me. I had nowhere to go in the summers, so my summer earnings went to immediate expenses, rent, clothes, etc. I was competing against kids who went back home to a rent free room, free food, free clothes, etc.

I racked up $20,000 in student loans, not due to financial mismanagement, but do to financial need. With interest and penalties I am still paying off $27,000 2nd mortgage which was my student loans.

I can very much relate to Carrie's situation, as mine isn't too much different. I don't pay rent, I pay a mortgage, but I have little equity, and the mortgage company owns the house. I pretty much live paycheck to paycheck, so if I lose my job, I could very easily lose the house.

However I don't begrude Sydni's at all. What she does with her money is her business. I go to museums and go out to eat myself. Perhaps not as often, but I go whenever I can.

It will be very difficult for me to put my little heathen through college some day, as I am still paying off my college bill. If my littel heaten attends college, it will be at the expense of even larger student loans that will hold her down in life as mine hold me down.
 

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