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Parenting Little Heathens

Atheists don't have a lot of parenting resources that speak directly to them. Come chat about all things parenting here.

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Discussion Forum

Live tweets from an abstinence-based "sex ed" class

Started by Grinning Cat Apr 17. 0 Replies

(OK, for not-so-little heathens...) Funny and horrifying -- Alice Dreger, a professor of medical humanities and bioethics, live-tweeted sitting in on her son's abstinence-based "sex education" class,…Continue

Tags: sex ed, abstinence-only, abstinence-based, awesome parents, sex education

Breastfed babies have less colic

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 6. 0 Replies

Babies who were only breastfed had a smoother transition to solid food, in this study.Another breastfeeding…Continue

Tags: colic, breastfeeding

Helping kids handle the transition out of religion

Started by Amy. Last reply by John Hayes Dec 22, 2014. 1 Reply

Hi, I'm new to atheism, and I tried coming out slowly to my 6 year old son, but after his school christmas program, things sort of sped up on the car ride home. He really freaked out when I told him…Continue

Omega 3s during pregnancy diets determine that child's math scores

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 11, 2014. 0 Replies

The current US diet, high in corn and soybean products, harms the brain of your developing fetus. Pregnant women need lots of omega 3's and a lot less omega 6's. Nearly half of the difference in…Continue

Children in megacities get brain damage

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 11, 2014. 0 Replies

Air pollution harmful to young brains, study findsAir pollution in large cities damages children's…Continue

Tags: brain damage, air pollution

Protecting oxygen-deprived newborns

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 11, 2014. 0 Replies

Cooling protects oxygen-deprived infantsWe always fear our newborn being temporarily deprived…Continue

Tags: birth complications

Breastfeeding moms need 5,000 - 6,000 IU of D per day

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jun 21, 2014. 0 Replies

Vitamin D and the nursing motherHuman milk, in most nursing mothers, contains very little vitamin D. Infant…Continue

Tags: vitamin D deficiency in babies

Nursing mothers need 5,000-6,000 IU of vitamin D

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jun 8, 2014. 0 Replies

Vitamin D and the nursing motherAn "adequate" intake for nursing mothers is not the 400 IU/d the IOM…Continue

Tags: nursing, vitamin D

Healthy diet bfore pregnancy and preterm birth

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner May 24, 2014. 0 Replies

Poor diet before pregnancy linked with preterm birthWomen who ate more protein and fruit before pregnancy…Continue

Tags: premature birth, diet

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Comment by Angie Jackson on June 1, 2009 at 1:58pm
In response to "parents in college". I did one semester at 21, got pregnant, spent 2 years as a WAHM (scrubbing toilets and bringing my toddler along with me) and then re-enrolled. Finances got too tight, we were briefly homeless. I'm now unemployed again. I'm waiting on response from FAFSA and if I can go back this fall I will. If my son wasn't in the EELP program (public school for pre-kindgertenars with special needs) there's no way I could afford it, as child care during class time was what made us so poor before. I have NO family help, receive NO child support, and WILL get my college degree, but accept that it may take me a decade or more to do so. Oh, for the years 2005-2007 I made a TOTAL of $10K and had to support both of us off of that and Pell Grants.

Middle class single moms and waaaaaaaay below poverty single moms just aren't in the same boat. And you really can't comprehend how beneficial family help with childcare and expenses is unless you don't have it.
Comment by Robyn on June 1, 2009 at 1:45pm
First off, does anyone besides me see the irony of the spouse of an IRS employee doing work "off the books?" LOL

You know Syndi, I think you're sincere in what you believe to be true about financial aid, but do you really think all these people on here telling you they can't get aid are just making it up? Do you think one anecdote from you trumps the experience of the people on here posting their own experience?

I truly don't think you realize just how offensive some of your wording is. And I say this with respect and from personal experience because I have the same problem. Sometimes I'm accused of being a bitch simply because I speak bluntly and don't mince words. But other times I am just being a bitch and/or judgmental.

I tend agree with you that "When there's a will, there's a way." But along life's path, I've learned that very little is black and white, because to say nothing is black and white would be irony at it's finest. ;) So I've revised my own belief to be "When there's a will, there's almost always a way." Sometimes there just isn't.
Comment by Wendy on June 1, 2009 at 1:20pm
good FSM you're basing your entire opinion on ONE anecdote? The "off the books" business probably helps/

One story doesn't cut it for me. Sweet weeping jebus you're the type of person that would probably say "any mother could be a SAHM if she REALLY wanted to"

whatever there's no making you believe that just because one, two or even THREE people could do that doesn't mean that ALL can. There are so many extenuating circumstances it's hard to start.

and AGAIN since this is a PARENTING FORUM, one would assume we're talking about PARENTS going to school. Got a story about THAT one?
Comment by Angie Jackson on June 1, 2009 at 12:41pm
Here's a great factually-based article from Forbes.com on the decreasing ROI (return on investment for the non-business folks out there) of a college education. It was published earlier this year and I read it in the paper edition in my former job as the #3 executive within my company (with no college degree, funnily enough).
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0202/060.html
Comment by Robyn on June 1, 2009 at 9:17am
Wendy, you're spot on with the EFC. I couldn't get any financial aid (including loans) because my family owned land for farming. My parents' income was too high for grants and the land was a huge asset on the balance sheet. A financial aid counselor from my state university actually told my dad to sell land to pay for college. Nevermind that by selling land and therefore decreasing income, I'd be more likely to qualify for free aid. (talk about mind boggling) I was fortunate to come from a family that could and would contribute to my college education and didn't have to rely on loans or grants. But I have nothing buy sympathy for those that have the desire to go to college, but not the means. It's tough. I wish there was an easier way.
Comment by Wendy on June 1, 2009 at 9:00am
I thought we were talking about people who are parents?
Comment by Wendy on June 1, 2009 at 9:00am
one more thing...when was your experience with this? Recently or in the past. The reign of Bush the II made it MUCH harder to get a secondary education
Comment by Wendy on June 1, 2009 at 8:59am
Again I ask---what's your authority on this? Do you know the minimum income needed to get financial aid? Hey guess what. NO ONES DOES. You fill out a FAFSA and wait. You might get a grant you might not. And then there's that little thing called EFC (expected family contribution). If you have family they can contribute, EVEN IF THEY WON'T, that'll be taken into account for your income.

grants are dolled out on financial need, and the money runs out WAY before everyone who has that financial need is taken care of. Most Pell awards go to families who make $20000 or less. So a HUGE section of the population is left out. So what's their other option...loans. And you're LUCKY if that covers tuition, much less other stuff. And I do believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) credit scores are taken into account before the amount is given

I HATE this. It makes people who have tried to better their lives but cant' go to school seem lazy. oh you haven't TRIED. What do you know, it's not always that easy
Comment by Brenda on June 1, 2009 at 8:12am
I agree with Wendy. It is one thing to go $40-60K in debt when you are young and don't have dependents. But if you are raising children and no longer a spring chicken, it almost seems financially irresponsible to take on such debt, without the support of extended family, and especially in this economy.

College degrees are NOT a guarentee of good paying employment, that is for certain. It is a great advantage for young people looking for first time jobs, but I think experience far outweighs education when you get older, at least for liberal arts majors like me.

On the other hand, we all hear about stories of people overcoming extraordinary personal stuggles. It is possible, but there are many risks involved, I don't begrudge anyone for not wanting to assume such risks. Rags to riches dreams require determination, focus, ability, and some luck.
Comment by Wendy on June 1, 2009 at 7:51am
oooh I'm gonna have to break reality here. Money is ALWAYS the issue. Student loans have not and will not EVER cover the cost of college. When was the last time you checked out tuition? A state university will cost you at MINIMUM $10000k/year. Add in books, daycare or babysitting if you're a parent, etc etc etc.

To think that money just an obstacle that anyone can overcome in regards to college is rather elitist thinking
 

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