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Comment by Dawn K on June 30, 2009 at 11:57am

Thanks Teacherninja for the clarification.

I googled Bessie Stanley and ran across this which made me chuckle.

At age 4, success is...not peeing in your pants.
At age 12, success is...having friends.
At age 16, success is...having a driver's license.
At age 20, success is...having sex.
At age 35, success is...having money.
At age 40, success is...finding meaning & purpose to life.
At age 45, success is...finding meaning & purpose to life.
At age 50, success is...having money.
At age 60, success is...having sex.
At age 70, success is...having a driver's license.
At age 75, success is...having friends.
At age 80, success is...not peeing in your pants.

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Comment by MarkFL on June 21, 2009 at 8:14am

For any parents that live in South Florida, The Florida Atheists and Secular Humanists are having their first parents' meetup on Sunday morning (most of you are free, aren't you?), July 12th at ArtPark in Hollywood, FL. Please go to http://www.meetup.com/FLASHParents/ and RSVP if you will be in the area. The kids will play at the park while the parents hang out (with one eye on our little infidels of course). If your kids still like to play at the park, this is perfect. If your kids are older, they can hang with the parents (every teenager's dream!). Thanks.

Comment by Wendy on June 18, 2009 at 9:12pm

Hi Yvette! How about an article on religion in the workplace? I have no idea if other people are dealing with what I am, but meetings are sometimes opened with prayer, the team building book is based on Christianity and so on and so forth. Blech

Comment by Bimmerella on June 14, 2009 at 9:58pm

I live in the Bible Belt, and I was raised Catholic. I remember sitting in church asking myself..."do people really believe this crap?" Fiery hell pits, the devil, pillars of salt...bleh bleh...I couldn't believe that my parents, my grand parents, actually bought into this mess. Then there was Catechism. I was a nightmare student. I asked all the questions no one could answer, and then I was told to leave after I refused to accept that I should just have faith.
My child is not going to suffer that injustice. If he has questions, he will be able to ask them. I'm NEVER going to accept my child throwing away his logic! I'm never going to accept anyone telling my child he will go to hell if he questions certain things. My response to him, is that the Church tried to stop Copernicus from asking how the solar system works, they even jailed him when he figured out the Sun was the center of the solar system. They said it went against the bible. I then asked my child who was right?
These are the things I want him to think about when being bullied by fundies!
I think he has a good head on his shoulders. I had the pleasure of taking him to the National Young Scholars Program in Washington DC last year, and he met other children who also were from families of intellectuals and non believers. He was so excited to meet people like him, it was nice for him to affirm there were others like us. I am glad I found this forum. It's nice to see other rational people using logic to raise their children to be intellectuals, thinkers, and problem solvers. Rock on!

Comment by Angie Jackson on June 12, 2009 at 2:54pm

I went to charismatic churches, which are supposed to be more "lively". But week after week of seeing the same women run around in circles, fall down "in the spirit" and scream.. it just gets old. Plus, Mass is only an hour, whereas our services were often 3-4 hours long. The most mainline churches I went to still had at least a 2 hour service.

Comment by Jake kerr on June 12, 2009 at 10:37am

12 years of Catholic School here. Church really helped my imagination a lot. I distinctly remember an elaborate tale I wove about robbers sealing off the church and attempting to rob it during services, and I was a superhero that used Kung Fu to defeat them, including swinging from chandolier to chandolier. It made that hour fly by.

Comment by Dawn K on June 12, 2009 at 9:04am

I guess that boy doesn't go to one of the 'fun' churches. I remember feeling exactly the same way during Catholic mass. "God Almighty, why does this have to be so boring".

Comment by Angie Jackson on June 11, 2009 at 6:25pm

@Jake - Church IS boring. Glad to hear your girls are getting balance and the ability to make their own age-appropriate choices :)

Comment by Jake kerr on June 11, 2009 at 4:23pm

Some background: I have three girls, aged 12, 7, and 5. We are raising them as critical thinkers and are not pushing them away from religious so much as to be rational. As a result, we have no problem if they ask about religions and a desire to visit a church or synagogue.

They go to a Montessori school, which is not religious-based but obviously has plenty of religious families. One day my seven year old was telling me about a boy in her class that goes to church, and she asked me if she could go to church with one of the boys in her class. My wife and I were like, "Sure, no problem."

So she comes home from school the next day, and she says, "I asked Ethan about going to church with him, and he said I would hate it because church is so boring." She hasn't brought it up again. :)

Comment by Dawn K on June 10, 2009 at 1:21pm

Welcome Kat and Jake! It's always nice to meet new parents.

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