Comment by Zerosmelt on September 17, 2008 at 3:07pm

Its somewhat ironic that darwin is the picture choice for this group since darwin didn't actually make any claims about the origins of anything. Despite what the title of his books seems to suggest.

Comment by Scottishatheist15 on September 26, 2008 at 8:03pm

please join my group if you have facebook

http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=19601295041&ref=share

Comment by Dr. Terence Meaden on September 27, 2008 at 3:14am

Zerosmelt
---Charles Darwin is one of the all-time great scientists. Indeed he is great among greats---like Newton and Einstein, working independently at the highest, most thorough level ahead of his time. His theory is of course all about evolution rather than actual 'origins', although he ponders the point with his thoughts about some suitable "warm little pond" being a possible start to life. No-one before him had even said as much as that about the possible origin of life.

Jim Ashby
---Ah, seeing that "I’ll be a monkey’s uncle" began as a sarcastic remark made by non-acceptors of Darwinism, it is not surprising that they displayed their further ignorance of the subject by inverting the 'genealogy'.

Scottish Atheist 15:
---No, I am not using facebook. This is my current meeting place. Cheers.

Comment by Dr. Terence Meaden on September 27, 2008 at 9:04am

Two more appropriate and good meeting places in which I am involved are

http://enlightened-observer.blogspot.com/

and

AtheistWeb Quote of the Day.

Do visit.

Comment by Tracy Newman on September 30, 2008 at 1:15am

Darwin is the "man" just like my bumper sticker says.

Comment by Dr. Terence Meaden on October 2, 2008 at 3:08pm

Referring again to Zerosmelt's comment, here is what Charles Darwin had to say when he was musing about the origin of life:

"But if (and oh! what a big if!) we could conceive in some warm little pond, with all sorts of ammonia and phosphoric salts, light, heat, electricity etc., present, that a protein compound was chemically formed ready to undergo still more complex changes."
This was cited by his son Francis Darwin who edited, The Life and Letters of Charles Darwin (1887) p. 202.

Comment by Curtis Edward Clark on November 2, 2008 at 5:10pm

I seek ontological rationality in every aspect of conscious existence.

"Existence is Identity, Consciousness is Identification."

"Existence is not a product of a supernatural dimension, or of anything else. There is nothing antecedent to existence, nothing apart from it—and no alternative to it."
Quote to me from Tom Clark of Center for Naturalism http://www.centerfornaturalism.org/: "It would be nice if all Rand’s acolytes examined her philosophy as assiduously as do you, ending up with more nuanced conclusions about the legitimacy of compassion and limits of egoism."
Speaking of origins, see my definition of "metaphysical naturalism" at http://freeassemblage.blogspot.com/2008/08/academys-strong-definition-of_03.html

Comment by Carol Everhart Roper on November 3, 2008 at 11:28am

Sorry, I don't know where else to put this - I replied in Dr. Meaden's Origins of Religions thread, and then he replied to me, which I read briefly over the weekend. I've come to re-read what he said, and try to reply, but I cannot find the thread at all. Can anyone help? What am I doing incorrectly? Thanks! c.

Comment by Dr. Terence Meaden on November 6, 2008 at 8:32am

Dear Carol

All's well. I have just found your comment and my reply here:

http://www.atheistnexus.org/xn/detail/2182797:Comment:133809

Terence.

Comment by Larian LeQuella on November 8, 2008 at 4:14pm

Part 4 won't load up for me. :( Anyone else having that trouble?

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