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Comment by skepticmom on July 15, 2011 at 11:20am

You may have all seen this video already. But I have only just discovered it. I thought it was awesome. So, I thought I would share it for those of you out there, who like me, never saw this. A Universe From Nothing - L. Krauss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo

Comment by Rudy V Kiist on July 15, 2011 at 10:46am

No worries...you're not the 1st and won't be the last who doesn't know what the hell I'm talking about half the time (^_-)

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on July 15, 2011 at 4:18am

Alysn, you are right. I didn't see the Ohio context of Rudy's post.

Comment by Rudy V Kiist on July 14, 2011 at 6:36pm

And while we're on the topic of "clearing things up", I just can't stand it anymore. Maybe I'm just a little slow, but I'm totally lost as to what Orson was relating his quote to.

And to clear my previous statements up more, when I was saying "not a big deal" that was in reference to HOW the fight was being waged, not the fight itself.

Comment by Rudy V Kiist on July 14, 2011 at 6:26pm

Yes, in that case, I think Tom didn't read everything I wrote...I'm in full support of what Stephan is doing. The discussion has been on whether or not doing that type of online voting is ethical and my position is, go ahead.

Mind you, at the same time if one feels it's "unethical", then by all means, hold onto your values and don't do it and don't fight in that way. As long as they don't push their "values" on others.

PS. Thanks for calling my mind "youthful" (^_^).

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on July 14, 2011 at 3:38pm

Rudy, when I wrote that your demand seems unreasonable, I failed to state that the oppression many atheists have known was religious, not political.

I have for decades been telling people that someday, though not during my lifetime, the law will treat the oppression being done in Catholic schools as child abuse.

I envy you your more youthful mind. My eighty-year-old mind was never able to leap from taking pencils from a workplace to bank robbery or mass murder.

 

Comment by Meddlesome on July 14, 2011 at 10:30am

Therefore the only thing you should trust is God

Who has been wrong about just about everything.....

M.

Comment by Orson_Zedd on July 14, 2011 at 10:26am

This argument sounds like my dad's argument that we can't trust science or the scientific method because "Scientists have been wrong, therefore doubt is cast on anything they say and the scientific method was developed by people who were wrong about something.  Therefore the only thing you should trust is God."

Comment by Rudy V Kiist on July 14, 2011 at 9:15am

Seriously Tom??? This issue is the same as let's say what's happened/happening in places like Libya or Iran??? And I suppose taking a pencil from work is the same as bank robbery or mass murder. Really, get some perspective...

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on July 14, 2011 at 12:54am

The other stereotype atheists have is we're arrogant SOBs. Get over it already.

Your demand that people who are fighting for freedom from oppression "Get over it already" seems to me unreasonable.

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