ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Natalie A Sera on October 21, 2011 at 10:57pm
Julie, I don't fear non-existence, because I have already been there. Think of all the billions of years since the formation of the planet, and the millennia of recorded history, and I wasn't here for ANY of it! And I won't be here for whatever the future brings, either. Non-existence isn't painful or scary -- it's just nothing. But it does make me value my life here on earth, and I figure I got a chance to enjoy things and actually HAVE a life. Good enough!
Comment by Lisa Schmidt on October 21, 2011 at 10:31pm
I don't think it has anything to do with age, I think it has to do with vulnerability.  I mean, look at the ones religion goes after...kids, the elderly, prisoners, addicts, the grieving...basically, the vulnerable.
Comment by Julie Carter on October 21, 2011 at 10:18pm

Funny, I just started reading Penn's book last night!

 

But yes, I think everyone sees that the older you get, the more likely you are to believe in god. Fear. That's all it is. And you know, I fear it too (non-existence), but just because I KNOW that this is all I have, and when I die, I will cease to exist. I'm not sure why I fear it, because it's not like I'll know the difference at that point! Lol.

Comment by Joseph P on October 21, 2011 at 10:16pm
What a stupid thing to say.  What does being comfortable with something have to do with reality?
Comment by Julie Carter on October 21, 2011 at 9:30pm
I think most people really don't think about it deeply. They just accept that there is a god and don't want to look at it too deeply. It's too comforting, and it's scary to think about there not being a god, there not being life after death. People are petrified of that, and just live in denial. So people refuse to use rationalism and logical thinking because they don't want to ruin their comforting illusions, and they don't want to be the one that has to go against the rest of their family, friends, and society. Pansies.
Comment by Rob Larson on October 21, 2011 at 7:10pm

Hi CJ,

You raise a thought in my mind: do people only join religions because others talk them into it and use social pressures? And do people only get leave religions because they talk *themselves* out of it, *despite* the social pressures?

Well done you, in any case! Good luck.

Comment by Arthur Schnabel on October 21, 2011 at 3:00pm
 Hey kids! Just jumping in here. My name is Arthur, I was raised catholic, I have been an Atheist since I was about 10 or 12 years old, after seeing Madeline Murray O'Hair on the Mike Douglas Show KICKING THAT PRIESTS ASS! (WOW!!!!) Making macaroni crosses and believing that some(thing) had rose from the dead was no more! Mom & Dad...REALLY!!!??? 
Comment by Tommy on October 21, 2011 at 2:14pm
CJ Just realized where you are from. We are almost neighbors. I'm from Dalton.
Comment by Tommy on October 21, 2011 at 2:10pm
Glad to have you here CJ!
Comment by Troy Gorsline on October 21, 2011 at 12:38pm
Welcome, CJ!
 

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