ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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Comment by Dr. Terence Meaden on November 1, 2011 at 2:56am

I should have added, as regards my post just below, that this is my strong action against unwanted door knockers when I need to get rid of them quickly.

In a quiet sit-down situation with similar buy-bull bashers I take a fairly reasonable kind of approach, much as indicated by Cane Kostovski below. 

Comment by Joseph P on October 31, 2011 at 9:02pm
Ooh, I like that, Park. Mind if I steal it? More concise and nuanced than my statement of it.
Comment by Joseph P on October 31, 2011 at 8:59pm
Secular Humanism, which is almost completely at odds with Ayn Rand's philosophy.
Comment by Park Bierbower on October 31, 2011 at 8:58pm
Libertarian or division! I like that dichotomy! Seriously, keep the randian stuff on the forums (where it's been destroyed and fought over for months) cuz that stuff trends to get lengthy and I'm sure this group doesn't need that in the comments. Just my thoughts.



Libertarians are the pentecostals of atheism.
Comment by AtheistTech on October 31, 2011 at 8:43pm
What then do you support? Division? Gather the sheep so that there is safety in numbers. Are you a sheep? I don't think so, but can you afford to be the wolf?
Comment by Joseph P on October 31, 2011 at 8:02pm
And the Libertarians will turn us into a third world country. What a bright future.

I don't think people feel like having this comment board turned into a Libertarian preach board.
Comment by AtheistTech on October 31, 2011 at 7:57pm
If anyone does not see me as an equal, does it follow that they are better than me? Does it follow that I should challenge them (since they are better than me) to come up with a better solution?
Comment by AtheistTech on October 31, 2011 at 7:52pm
Why? Is it offensive? If you and the majority practice the process of considering everyone your equal, you will win the majority, then the theists will become the minority. Then doing what Ayn Rand suggests will convince some more of the theists in the minority. Then there will be a smaller minority that will refuse to treat others as equals. It will be up to someone else to figure out how to deal with them, or just leave them alone.
Comment by Joseph P on October 31, 2011 at 7:45pm
Yeah, but the Objectivists are the most dogmatic of any atheists you'll find. I'd be very careful quoting Ayn Rand.
Comment by AtheistTech on October 31, 2011 at 7:06pm

Joseph -  For those that are mindlessly devout, I agree with what I have as a signature in my emails that I send:

“Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone.” Ayn Rand

 

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