ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Idaho Spud on November 8, 2012 at 4:19pm

Joan, I like your long post and especially the paragraph about there being no "purpose". It expresses my thoughts better than I can.

Comment by John Lynch on November 8, 2012 at 2:35pm

The Catholic church is a perfect example of a political organization hiding behind it's priestly robes.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 8, 2012 at 1:30pm

 Religion is a consruct, as is politics and economics. They are notion developed in the minds of humans, taught through family and culture, added to, changed, adjusted as fits the times. Some reject constructs of the past because new information emerges, values change, unintended problems emerge and for other reasons.

The test is, How are constructs that influence your life working for you?

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 8, 2012 at 1:13pm

Thank you Littlejohn Dellar, clear, concise, easy to understand. I reposted with attribution to you. 

Comment by Jimmy McCann on November 8, 2012 at 12:42pm

Sorry Chris, but that like saying politics is about kissing babies and shaking hands. Of course the central message of most religions do revolve around the 'threat and promise' but that is only the propaganda of the organisations behind religion.  

Comment by Chris Dodds on November 8, 2012 at 10:14am

I always thought that the definition of a regligion was that a religon was a set of beliefs that include and revolve around some supernatural component of life (particularly human life) that continues on after the death of the physical body.

Comment by Jimmy McCann on November 8, 2012 at 9:19am

No argument here, although the important part of belief is: from whence it came. all religions throughout history have imposed beliefs more often through violent repression, a societal construct manufactured from fictional constructs. The US was born out of mass emigration from repressive European religions and then constructed their very own versions, Mormonism is a perfect example. 

Comment by Littlejohn Dellar on November 8, 2012 at 8:51am
Definition of religion

noun

[mass noun]
  • the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
    To believe in a personal god or gods is to have a religion.  That is the very definition of religion.
     
    Redefining the word to your taste does not change what it actually means.
Comment by Jimmy McCann on November 8, 2012 at 8:41am

Whether there is or isn't a God or indeed who made him is really a moot point and most atheist simply do not believe in any god (s) or religions, as none of them come even close to describing a god or gods that could have or would have made this Universe . Religions obsessive desire to have him, it or them to themselves is nothing more than a primitive arrogance. The truth of religion has nothing whatsoever to do with worshiping a creator or even following tribal rules of morality, Religions are political institutions conjured up for the benefit of the ruling elite with the singular aim of securing their dominance by extracting money from the masses. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 7, 2012 at 10:57pm

Neal Schermerhorn, your statement makes as much sense as any I have run across. 

"I like the theory that "god" is simply one's own self, playing "hide-and-seek" with itself, a sort of mild disassociative disorder if you will. Certainly explains why people fight over it so much."

 

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